COILTEK announces the Lithium Ion System GPX4000

[DOC]

Have you noticed that while Minelab has done a great job with their new Lithium Ion Battery system for the new GPX4000, it is still a little large to mount to the side of your new GPX4000?

Well COILTEK realizes that many of you really enjoyed the convenience of our POCKET ROCKET system for the SD/GP series.

Now you can have that same convenience with the NEW POCKET ROCKET GPX.

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Included are:

2 - 7800 mAh Lithium Ion batteries
1 - Battery cradle with 5 pin female, and headphone jack
1 - AC DC battery charger
1 - Lithium Ion System Pouch
1 - BONUS - short battery to detector lead for side mounting the system to your detector.

Our COILTEK Lithium Ion Battery System can also use the Minelab GPX4000 curly cord.

These are in VERY SHORT supply, Rob Allison has 10 and I have 7 so you need to act fast. The price is only $275. plus shipping. Not too shabby when you consider that you are getting two extra backup batteries for your GPX4000! We have more on order but COILTEK doesn't get back to work until January 9.

We also have a very few COILTEK Heavy Duty GPX Power cords, retail $44.95 plus shipping

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We are having more made up as we speak however, the demand in Australia is already pretty strong. So we are fighting to get our fair share.

BCOT!

DOC
1-800-477-3211 ext 14

 

[lemons]

Do I see a switch guard, factory fitted on your Hot Pocket rocket, Doc?

Gee. . . that's really, super good. . . No high-flying Condors were anhilalated or shat upon during this electronic exchange.

I'm sure you got the message Doc.
End of bile!

lemons

 

[DOC]

Lemons, your posts of late have been extremely sarcastic. I don't know if you are trying to be funny or your just have a stick up your arse.

If you are trying to be funny, I am not amused. If you have a stick up your butt, I don't know why.

There is no manufacturer out there that tries to be as responsive to their customers as COILTEK. Do we always get it right? NO, sometimes we don't think of everything, but when the pocket rocket first came out without a switch guard, and people complained about it, we took those suggestions to heart and we did something about it.

There is no one that gives as much customer service as we do, period, end of story.

If we have done something to offend you in particular, then we apologize and certainly we want to know what the problem is so we can resolve it.

If on the other hand you are trying to be a pain in the arse, and just cranky, well there is really nothing we can help you with.

I wish you a Happy New Year an a more pleasant disposition.

DOC

 

[snakejim]

You know Doc, I think with a handle like lemons (or sour grapes), he's just a bitter ole fart with nothing better to do than piss and moan and complain about everything. Bitching and griping is just the way of some folks. It's what makes them happy! What a piss poor way to live.
My 2 cents!
RSJ

 

[alaskaseeker]

A Puke is a Puke is a Puke....Got that out of my system........Geo

 

[Digger Bob]

Doc, I don't suppose that there will be any adapter made so that our old ones will work?

Digger

 

[DOC]

Digger, the problem is that the GPX4000 works at 8.4 volts.

As you know, the SD/GP regulated system works at either 6.7 or 7.2 volts depending on where you flip the switch.

Now the GPX manual says that when the GPX4000 Lithium Ion Battery supplied with the GPX4000 gets down to 7.3 volts it will give you a low warning beep. And at 7.2 volts it will turn the detector off.

SO, being the highest voltage our old regulated system works at is 7.2 volts, that would seem to indicate it would shut the machine down. HOWEVER, now that you mention it, I am wondering if the 7.2 volts and the shut down is a function that the Minelab Lithium Ion battery performs. The charging board inside the Minelab battery probably senses the voltage that the battery is putting out, and when the board sees the voltage has dropped to 7.2 volts it just turns the battery off. If that is not the case, and the detector itself perfomrs the shut off function then I don't think there is anything that can be done.

If it is the Minelab battery doing the shut down, I am wondering if my using a gender changing power cord, 4 pin female on one end to plug into the current regulated system, to a 5 pin male on the other to plug into the detector, if the detector would not still run in the 7.2 volt position.

The only disadvantage is that you would be running the detector at the low end of the operating voltage, 7.3 volts to 8.4 volts. You woul be runniung at 7.2 volts. I would have to think you would sacrafice some depth???

I will have to rig up a power cable and see if it works with the regulated Lithium Ion Battery system.

Take care and Happy New Year Digger!

DOC

 

[lemons]

we thank you Doc, and we wish you a Happy New Year. we are your bestest buddies, after all.

sweet lemons

 

[JACKHAMMER]

I,M NOT SURE WHO U ARE MATE AND CARE LITTLE...IF YA AUSSIE SHUT YA GOB YA DIPSTICK...AND KEEP YOUR SNIDE AND UNCALLED FOR REMARKS TO YOURSELF.

BOTH JOHN GLADDIS OF COILTEK AND DOC I KNOW PERSONALLY AND I HOLD BOTH IN HIGH REGARD...U I DONT KNOW

JH

 

[lemons]

Pull your head in Jack. You don't know anything about what's going on. Doc does.
As I said. . . end of bile. I hold to that.

lemons

 

[DOC]

Lemons I have no idea why you have a bug up your arse.

Seems to me it was unprovoked.

DOC

 

[Digger Bob]

Doc, I knew the voltages and pins were different but I was thinking that a higher voltage battery, like I'm assuming the new coiltek system has, could be adapted to the "old" holder, thereby ramping up the power to the detector. Probably not feasible, I know, but not being an electronic guru, I thought I'd ask. I may be way off in my thinking here but I know a lot of us still have the old system in stock, you included, and there might be a way to still use it.

Digger

 

[JACKHAMMER]

LEMONS...I dont have to know whats u think is going on if u have a beef with either DOC or JOHN GLADIS and im sure those two blokes will scratch whatever is bugging u. INstead you choose the way of the clown the wise arse remarks that drip in sarcasm and inuendo.
What annoys me and i have no doubt others is the fact that DOC has said he hasnt a clue what u are on about so explain yourself in plain english. Or are u the type that hides as your nic(lemons)sugest a sour degruntled fruit cake with no balls

jh

 

[DOC]

The COILTEK Lithium Ion batteries you have, strangely enough, are the exact same voltage as the Minelab GPX4000 battery.

Minelab is using a 7.2 volt battery which charges up to 8.4 volts. Which is exactly what the COILTEK Lithium Ion batteries are.

What you are basically looking at is a battery holder, just like the COILTEK Lithium Ion Regulator you have right now, the only difference is there is no regulator inside, and the power connection is a 5 pin male.

Everything else in the COILTEK system is the same. Just a NEUTERED Lithium Ion battery seat.

DOC

 

[lemons]

I'm sorry doc, I really did think you were being coy.

When the pocket rocket was first released I, amongst others, pointed-out a potential issue regarding the exposed, long-throw switch. Do you recall?

Here's a wee memory jogger: The objective view.
http://www.nuggethunting.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1879&hl=pocket+rocket

denial:
http://www.nuggethunting.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1905&st=20

one humorous post remains. . . and it has been deleted unless doc can post it here for us all to see. The star is of course, a Condor.

One last thing. Jackhammer, where does John of coiltek come into the subject? I can't recall even mentioning him or any suggestion related to him. Mate, calm down. You got enough on your plate without saving the world; mind you would look great in lycra with a cape. . .



As I have said, no more bile. Perhaps I am wrong in giving you a nudge over something you had thought so inconsequental doc. But crapping on posters who don't see things your way is not 'form'. Not in my book anyway.
Many other readers will know of what I am talking about.

I really would like you to post your Conor again doc. It was pretty funny.

nice lemons

 

[Digger Bob]

If that's the case, then those of us who already have the system on our 3000's need only a replacement battery holder with the 5 pin connector? Everything else is the same? If I am correct, does Coiltek sell those as a separate unit, without having to buy the whole kit - batteries, charger, pouch, etc.?

I was going to include the Pocket Rocket with my 3000 when I sell it because I figured I'd have to buy a whole new, different, improved Pocket Rocket. But if I can get by with just a new holder, then I will just sell it with the standard battery that came with it.
Make sense? Just trying to save a few bucks here...

Digger Bob

 

[DOC]

Yes that is all you need is just the battery holder.

Yes we have them by themselves, but I only have three left.

DOC

 

[DOC]

Well I didn't see it as an issue then, and I still don't. If you use the pocket rocket inside of it's pouch, and then inside of the Minelab pouch the switch is not an issue. Strange that I am still using the original proto type regulator on my 3500 that has no switch guard. I have had it flip to the off position one time when I fell on my arse.

I sill don't understand what point you are trying to make, guys wanted a switch guard, we didn't understand the necessity of it, but we figured if it was that important we would open it up for design suggestions, no one came up with any suggestions, so COILTEK designed their own, and sent one to everyone that needed one.

Gold Guru went on a PERSONAL ATTACK saying I was attempting to cram crap down people's throats, which is his style.

Once again I will pose the question, what other company do you know, that when faced with criticism, even when they think the criticism is much ado about nothing, goes ahead and tries to design a fix to make the customer's happy?

I think the switch guard is a great idea. Is it an absolute necessity? NO.

However you also have to recognize that how we envisioned the battery being used, especially in the pouch, the switch would have been protected. We had no idea that the great majority of people would want to mount the battery system on the machine itself. That method of mounting certainly would make some kind of switch protector more desirable.

So anyway, customers said they wanted a switch guard, we didn't see why it was needed, but trying to be responsive to the customers we decided that it was not what we thought, but what the customers thought that was important, so we designed a switch guard. What more did you want us to do?

You are talking about posts that took place in September of 2005, I don't have total recall.

Personally I see it as a non issue. Customer's didn't like something, we took it under advisement, we worked towards and came up with a solution and provided it to the customer's no charge. Just like we have always done and will continue to do.

Like I said before I still don't get what point you are trying to make but if bringing up these things gives you some sense of delight and enjoyment, well then I am happy that you can find things to smile about.

DOC

 

[DOC]

Dam you have a good memory. I totally forgot about this post. But you kept saying CONDOR, so I went to Rob's forum and did a search for the word CONDOR, and sure enough, I did make a post referring to a CONDOR, I swear I did not have a flippin' clue what in the hell you were talking about. I'm getting old Lemons, I don';t remember stuff.

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Adding to what ROB said, how many of those same switches does the GP3500 have on it ? Too darn many for my liking. And yes, occasionally they do get clicked to a position other than the one you set it to.

We have not had any problems what-so-ever with the battery switch, but of course there is always that scenario you could think up that could cause that switch to get clicked off of its intended position.

Like if you were climbing under trees ??? And your headphone jack got pulled out .... ah, wouldn't the lack of sound in your headphones give you a heads up that something is amiss. And doesn't that seem to indicate a design fault with the headphone plug, - that it could be pulled out ??? Maybe we should solder those headphone jacks in place, or hard wire them, or duct tape them in place.

Or what if you were in California detecting in a National Forrest and it started to rain, and you were crawling under trees, and bushes, and there was thunder and lightening. You hear a large thunder crack and look up just in time to see that lightening has hit a giant California Condor that was flying overhead, and it falls out of the sky and lands on your battery pack and breaks off the headphone jack and flips the switch on your battery pack? (That one we would cover under warranty, as long as you send us pictures of the incident.)

Or what if you have just installed one of those monster super magnets Rob sells on your pick, and the first time out you go to swing it, and it slams over and locks onto the steel plate you have in your head ? Try as you might, you cannot get it loose. You spend the rest of the day digging targets by standing on your head and using your head attached pick like a human backhoe ? And what if when you are ready to get in your truck and leave, you have to drive the whole way home with your window open and the pick handle sticking outside the window, so you can fit in your vehicle?

OK, now all of this is exactly why I keep telling you guys to .....

BE CAREFUL OUT THERE !

This is a dangerous hobby!

DOC

P.S. I don't care what you say, that there was funny. Lord forgive me for this post and I pray for all the starving pygmies in New Guinea. Get er' done !


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BCOT !

DOC
DOC's Detecting Supply
3740 S. Royal Crest St.
Las Vegas, NV 89119
1-800-477-3211 ext. 14

 

[JACKHAMMER]

GAD...doc keep ya pants on...those pygmies are 9ft tall and have puters 2

jh