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Coiltek 10 X 5" coil video
- Thread starter Digger
- Start date
Looks like maybe Coilek is trying to drum up some interest in this coil. Doesn't seem to be that many people posting about it. I'm not aware of a single CTX user in my area that owns one. Too expensive for this old dude and I already own the 6" and 17". By far the most of my hunting is with the stock. Wonder if any other size aftermarket coils are on the horizon.
Coiltek put the video together for the Minelab Partners Conference in Nawlins this past month. Unfortunately, I was wintering in Texas when I got the call to participate. Otherwise, I'd have dressed for the occasion and included some better footage. I was just notified tonight that it was available for online viewing. I didn't post it here to drum up any business for Coiltek. I posted it here because I thought some of you folks might want to put a "face to the name" of people you may have met through this hobby. Nothing more...nothing less. If you think otherwise, you misjudged my intent.
In response to your last question, the answer is yes. I'd tell you more about it, but I don't want anyone to think I am drumming up business for the manufacturer. HH Randy
In response to your last question, the answer is yes. I'd tell you more about it, but I don't want anyone to think I am drumming up business for the manufacturer. HH Randy
Jason in Enid
Active member
"Best detectorists in the world" LOL, that's a laugh!
Trevor actually said "SOME of the best detectorists in the world". Obviously,there are many others who are just as proficient with their detectors as those in the video. Unfortunately, not all of them could be included in the short video. As someone in the video, however, I'm disappointed to hear you found his comments laughable.
Jason in Enid
Active member
Digger said:
GKMan said:
Nope. Without knowing anybody's real names here, how could we? I never heard "Digger, the admin from findmall". I never said the people in the video ad weren't good hunters, but to use a completely un-provable claim as "best detectorists" was laughable. That's liek saying "the best flower arranger" or "the best at dressing themselves".
It's unbelievable how anyone can be so arrogant as to knock people and equipment that they obviously know nothing about. One can only hope that someday they realize how small and foolish it makes them look.
Keep up the awesome work Randy! You are a gem!
Keep up the awesome work Randy! You are a gem!
sprchng
Well-known member
I hunt with a friend frequently that uses one almost exclusively. Just as one would imagine , the advantages are more ergonomics and maneuverability. He can get closer to metal objects than I can with the stock 11' , but he has yet to demonstrate where he has been able to unmask objects I could not with the stock coil with a slow sweep speed and some extra wigglin'. The 5 x 10 is NOT as deep as the stock as I've shown him a few times.
I think the fact that Coiltek has had to make a promo concerning this coil says volumes as to the value their customers have seen in the pricing and it's potential rewards.
I think the fact that Coiltek has had to make a promo concerning this coil says volumes as to the value their customers have seen in the pricing and it's potential rewards.
Porschephile
Member
Its a great coil. The first silver target I found with mine was a Barber dime. Its depth is better than the six inch but not quite as much as stock. I posted a test a while back. Got trolled pretty well. I am not sure why coil has so many haters LOL! Its just another option
foreign object
New member
I would really like to try one but will never pay the new price for one.
Looks like a solid coil. Didn't know Gary D. in Florida was using it. I have the 6" and 17" coils in addition to the stock so not sure I can justify this coil now. When first heard of this coil I was thinking the 10" length is not much different than the stock 11" but the 5" width gives the coil a true elliptical configuration and I can see how it could sneak through the trash.
I use my 6" a lot but keep wanting something just a tad larger like an 8" round or elliptical in a DD configuration. I think an 8"x6" could be an ideal coil for the CTX>
HH
I use my 6" a lot but keep wanting something just a tad larger like an 8" round or elliptical in a DD configuration. I think an 8"x6" could be an ideal coil for the CTX>
HH
and it is a great option for those who recognize what it was designed to do. Remember, there are no magic wands.
Here are some tidbits that I've posted earlier, regarding the reason I wanted one and how it performs for me.
Re: Latest From Coiltek CTX 3030 10 X 5 DD Coil
Posted by: Digger [ Send a Message ]
Date: August 28, 2014 09:57AM
I plan to get one for two reasons....neither of which have anything to do with any video or marketing information. My two reasons are that it has a smooth bottom and a larger footprint than the 6-inch Minelab coil. Both of which should benefit me in the places I hunt.
(IMHO) based solely on the design, the depth of detection of the new Coiltek coil shouldn't be any less than those realized using the 6-inch Minelab coil. Depending on the actual diameter and winding specifications, it could be more. Likewise, the "left to right" separation characteristics should be equal to the Minelab DD coils. Again, depending on the design characteristics, it may or may not. If it provides TID information (audio and visual) comparable to the Minelab coils, operates with equal stability, detects as deep and separates as well as the 6-inch Minelab coil, I will consider it a good investment for the places I like to detect. HH Randy
Re: My 10X5 Coiltek Coil Will Be Here Friday!
Posted by: Digger [ Send a Message ]
Date: September 14, 2014 06:10PM
As I mentioned a couple weeks back, the reasons I wanted to get one were two-fold.....a smooth bottom and a larger footprint than the 6-inch Minelab coil. Both of those "reasons" would benefit me in many of the places I like to hunt. (rough terrain, crop stubble and plowed fields).
As to how it hunts....so far, so good. Although it is extremely stable, it is a bit more sensitive than my Minelab coils. I say that because where I typically use Auto +3 on the Minelab coils, I have to back it down to Auto +2 with this coil to minimize chattering. And in wetter soil where I can typically get away with Auto +2, this one had to be backed down to Auto or Auto +1. The depth of detection is a bit more than the 6-inch Minelab coil in that I retrieved targets that were not detected with the 6-inch. As expected, the "left to right" separation characteristics are similar to the other DD coils. This elliptical coil provides quite accurate TID for US coins. The only "con" I've found thus far is one I also have with the Minelab Stock coil. As such, it could well be in the filtration algorithms of the CTX and not the coil itself. Anyway, I've dug several dozen deeply buried, bent, iron nails the past week or so that gave me the solid "dig me" signal from one direction. No matter how many times I circled the target, it always gave me that "dig me" response when swept in a certain direction. Over the years, I've dug enough iron trash to usually feel confident walking past most of those squeakers. But on the other hand, I've found enough old silver coins "on edge" at these sites that I didn't want to pass any of them up. So far, all of these have been those pesky bent nails. Oddly enough, just as find when I dig one of these using the stock coil, the old bent nail is found at the back-left edge of the hole. (about the 7:30 position) With the 6-inch, I can usually tell the difference by comparing the exact target location in Pinpoint, with the exact location in detect mode. But the size of the detection field makes it a bit more difficult with this coil, just as it does with the stock coil. As I said, if it weren't for the fact I've dug quite a few coins on edge in these sites, I'd probably passed up the majority of these "one-way" signals. But they looked enough like old dimes that I wasn't taking any chances. I need to spend more time with the tip of the coil "tracing" the target, to see if I can get a better grip on the location differences.
I had made an earlier post regarding the Coiltek coil and old, bent nails.......
Posted by: Digger [ Send a Message ]
Date: September 22, 2014 09:31AM
Part of my earlier post said:
I've dug several dozen deeply buried, bent, iron nails the past week or so that gave me the solid "dig me" signal from one direction. No matter how many times I circled the target, it always gave me that "dig me" response when swept in a certain direction. Over the years, I've dug enough iron trash to usually feel confident walking past most of those squeakers. But on the other hand, I've found enough old silver coins "on edge" at these sites that I didn't want to pass any of them up. So far, all of these have been those pesky bent nails. Oddly enough, just as find when I dig one of these using the stock coil, the old bent nail is found at the back-left edge of the hole. (about the 7:30 position) With the 6-inch, I can usually tell the difference by comparing the exact target location in Pinpoint, with the exact location in detect mode. But the size of the detection field makes it a bit more difficult with this coil, just as it does with the stock coil. As I said, if it weren't for the fact I've dug quite a few coins on edge in these sites, I'd probably passed up the majority of these "one-way" signals. But they looked enough like old dimes that I wasn't taking any chances. I need to spend more time with the tip of the coil "tracing" the target, to see if I can get a better grip on the location differences.
Having more time with the elliptical coil, I have been able to eliminate the vast majority of those pesky old bent nails. The "combination" that I've found to be most effective is the implementation of several tactics. I set Pattern One with some discrimination and Pattern 2 wide open. I like Ferrous/Coin for most sites, with a low tone on the ferrous targets. I typically hunt in discrimination if the trash is abundant. And I hunt with no discrimination if targets are few and far between. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the coil is extremely sensitive. So I set the Auto Sensitivity "one click" lower than with the Minelab coils. And, I set FAST ON. I have been running Fast Off with the Minelab coils, as I felt the processor was "keeping up" just fine. What I've found with using Fast ON with this coil is that the CTX will provide that old familiar "grunt" on the deep nails. It wasn't doing that (in the places I've been hunting) with Fast OFF. With all this in mind, when detect a target in one Pattern, I will confirm the TID in the other. Usually, with FAST ON, if a target "squeaks" in discrimination, it will grunt in non-discrimination. And if I happen to have multiple iron targets under the coil, Pinpoint Sizing will usually separate them for me, with a fairly accurate TID. If, after all that, I am still unsure of the target, I will tip the elliptical coil up on it's nose, and by using the wide open Pattern, trace the exact location. What I've found is, if the target remains in the same location as it seems to be when I sweep with the coil flat, and it doesn't grunt, it is likely something I would want to dig. If, however, tracing the target with the tip of the coil recognizes the target to have moved an inch or so, or if the location is the same and it grunts, it has usually been one of those old nails. Your mileage may vary. JMHO HH Randy
Here are some tidbits that I've posted earlier, regarding the reason I wanted one and how it performs for me.
Re: Latest From Coiltek CTX 3030 10 X 5 DD Coil
Posted by: Digger [ Send a Message ]
Date: August 28, 2014 09:57AM
I plan to get one for two reasons....neither of which have anything to do with any video or marketing information. My two reasons are that it has a smooth bottom and a larger footprint than the 6-inch Minelab coil. Both of which should benefit me in the places I hunt.
(IMHO) based solely on the design, the depth of detection of the new Coiltek coil shouldn't be any less than those realized using the 6-inch Minelab coil. Depending on the actual diameter and winding specifications, it could be more. Likewise, the "left to right" separation characteristics should be equal to the Minelab DD coils. Again, depending on the design characteristics, it may or may not. If it provides TID information (audio and visual) comparable to the Minelab coils, operates with equal stability, detects as deep and separates as well as the 6-inch Minelab coil, I will consider it a good investment for the places I like to detect. HH Randy
Re: My 10X5 Coiltek Coil Will Be Here Friday!
Posted by: Digger [ Send a Message ]
Date: September 14, 2014 06:10PM
As I mentioned a couple weeks back, the reasons I wanted to get one were two-fold.....a smooth bottom and a larger footprint than the 6-inch Minelab coil. Both of those "reasons" would benefit me in many of the places I like to hunt. (rough terrain, crop stubble and plowed fields).
As to how it hunts....so far, so good. Although it is extremely stable, it is a bit more sensitive than my Minelab coils. I say that because where I typically use Auto +3 on the Minelab coils, I have to back it down to Auto +2 with this coil to minimize chattering. And in wetter soil where I can typically get away with Auto +2, this one had to be backed down to Auto or Auto +1. The depth of detection is a bit more than the 6-inch Minelab coil in that I retrieved targets that were not detected with the 6-inch. As expected, the "left to right" separation characteristics are similar to the other DD coils. This elliptical coil provides quite accurate TID for US coins. The only "con" I've found thus far is one I also have with the Minelab Stock coil. As such, it could well be in the filtration algorithms of the CTX and not the coil itself. Anyway, I've dug several dozen deeply buried, bent, iron nails the past week or so that gave me the solid "dig me" signal from one direction. No matter how many times I circled the target, it always gave me that "dig me" response when swept in a certain direction. Over the years, I've dug enough iron trash to usually feel confident walking past most of those squeakers. But on the other hand, I've found enough old silver coins "on edge" at these sites that I didn't want to pass any of them up. So far, all of these have been those pesky bent nails. Oddly enough, just as find when I dig one of these using the stock coil, the old bent nail is found at the back-left edge of the hole. (about the 7:30 position) With the 6-inch, I can usually tell the difference by comparing the exact target location in Pinpoint, with the exact location in detect mode. But the size of the detection field makes it a bit more difficult with this coil, just as it does with the stock coil. As I said, if it weren't for the fact I've dug quite a few coins on edge in these sites, I'd probably passed up the majority of these "one-way" signals. But they looked enough like old dimes that I wasn't taking any chances. I need to spend more time with the tip of the coil "tracing" the target, to see if I can get a better grip on the location differences.
I had made an earlier post regarding the Coiltek coil and old, bent nails.......
Posted by: Digger [ Send a Message ]
Date: September 22, 2014 09:31AM
Part of my earlier post said:
I've dug several dozen deeply buried, bent, iron nails the past week or so that gave me the solid "dig me" signal from one direction. No matter how many times I circled the target, it always gave me that "dig me" response when swept in a certain direction. Over the years, I've dug enough iron trash to usually feel confident walking past most of those squeakers. But on the other hand, I've found enough old silver coins "on edge" at these sites that I didn't want to pass any of them up. So far, all of these have been those pesky bent nails. Oddly enough, just as find when I dig one of these using the stock coil, the old bent nail is found at the back-left edge of the hole. (about the 7:30 position) With the 6-inch, I can usually tell the difference by comparing the exact target location in Pinpoint, with the exact location in detect mode. But the size of the detection field makes it a bit more difficult with this coil, just as it does with the stock coil. As I said, if it weren't for the fact I've dug quite a few coins on edge in these sites, I'd probably passed up the majority of these "one-way" signals. But they looked enough like old dimes that I wasn't taking any chances. I need to spend more time with the tip of the coil "tracing" the target, to see if I can get a better grip on the location differences.
Having more time with the elliptical coil, I have been able to eliminate the vast majority of those pesky old bent nails. The "combination" that I've found to be most effective is the implementation of several tactics. I set Pattern One with some discrimination and Pattern 2 wide open. I like Ferrous/Coin for most sites, with a low tone on the ferrous targets. I typically hunt in discrimination if the trash is abundant. And I hunt with no discrimination if targets are few and far between. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the coil is extremely sensitive. So I set the Auto Sensitivity "one click" lower than with the Minelab coils. And, I set FAST ON. I have been running Fast Off with the Minelab coils, as I felt the processor was "keeping up" just fine. What I've found with using Fast ON with this coil is that the CTX will provide that old familiar "grunt" on the deep nails. It wasn't doing that (in the places I've been hunting) with Fast OFF. With all this in mind, when detect a target in one Pattern, I will confirm the TID in the other. Usually, with FAST ON, if a target "squeaks" in discrimination, it will grunt in non-discrimination. And if I happen to have multiple iron targets under the coil, Pinpoint Sizing will usually separate them for me, with a fairly accurate TID. If, after all that, I am still unsure of the target, I will tip the elliptical coil up on it's nose, and by using the wide open Pattern, trace the exact location. What I've found is, if the target remains in the same location as it seems to be when I sweep with the coil flat, and it doesn't grunt, it is likely something I would want to dig. If, however, tracing the target with the tip of the coil recognizes the target to have moved an inch or so, or if the location is the same and it grunts, it has usually been one of those old nails. Your mileage may vary. JMHO HH Randy
