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Coil question
- Thread starter RRandy
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Shenandoah Digger
New member
Nope but the Omega DD will.
Jackpine Savage
Active member
I don't know if Daniel from the old Los Banos Fisher is responsible but at any rate
19Khz specific coils for the Gold Bug
Tom Z
WTG Production Department!!
19Khz specific coils for the Gold Bug
Tom Z
Shenandoah Digger
New member
I wonder if the performance will be any better than the Omega coil. Because the Omega coil works perfectly.
Jackpine Savage
Active member
Don't have a clue how much difference there is between the frat bros coil and the 19Khz coil performance wise. Knowing FT I will guess that production tolerances were perhaps tightened up a bit.
Tom
Tom
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
Perhaps just a label to make the masses feel better.
Dave J has already stated that the Greek series coil works perfectly with the Gold Bug, but a couple of folks who have insisted that they know more about it than Dave have talked down the 11" DD coil and cast dispersions on it because of the frequency the Frat brothers detectors operate at. Yet so far there have only been good reports about it.
I'd shake my head and sell those folks a coil with a Gold Bug sticker on it.
HH
Mike
Dave J has already stated that the Greek series coil works perfectly with the Gold Bug, but a couple of folks who have insisted that they know more about it than Dave have talked down the 11" DD coil and cast dispersions on it because of the frequency the Frat brothers detectors operate at. Yet so far there have only been good reports about it.
I'd shake my head and sell those folks a coil with a Gold Bug sticker on it.
HH
Mike
Jackpine Savage
Active member
a liar? Mike I truly don't believe that is your intent. The idea of relabling the frat coils occurred to me also but that is not the proper way to do it and I have more faith in Dave J & Co than that.
You have a V3 right? What has Carl said about the Eclipse coil problems. Same thing only different.
These coils ain't cheap and there is a good reason they aren't. They are time consuming and expensive to build (correclty that is).
HH Tom
You have a V3 right? What has Carl said about the Eclipse coil problems. Same thing only different.
These coils ain't cheap and there is a good reason they aren't. They are time consuming and expensive to build (correclty that is).
HH Tom
Jackpine, calm down, Mike is right and he's not calling me a liar. This whole issue has been discussed at length in another thread.
The 11 inch DD originally developed for the F5, with a different connector eventually become the 11 incher for the Tek Frat Bros. lineup, and is now the 11 inch coil for the Gold Bug platform machines. Labelling may differ because of distribution through different marketing channels.
People who say that a coil aligned at 7.8 kHz can't be in alignment at 19.2 kHz are wrong. It depends on the searchcoil design. For 19 years now, Fisher CZ's have been running at 5 and 15 kHz simultaneously and not once has a customer decided to tell us what frequency we should be aligning CZ searchcoils at.
--Dave J.
The 11 inch DD originally developed for the F5, with a different connector eventually become the 11 incher for the Tek Frat Bros. lineup, and is now the 11 inch coil for the Gold Bug platform machines. Labelling may differ because of distribution through different marketing channels.
People who say that a coil aligned at 7.8 kHz can't be in alignment at 19.2 kHz are wrong. It depends on the searchcoil design. For 19 years now, Fisher CZ's have been running at 5 and 15 kHz simultaneously and not once has a customer decided to tell us what frequency we should be aligning CZ searchcoils at.
--Dave J.
Jackpine Savage
Active member
Is it a seperate 'aligned' coil as your eating crow posted seemed to indicate? Myself and several others took it that way.
I understand what you were saying about waiting for the 19Khz machine to go into production to check the coil compatability. But then you said SORRY I WAS Wrong
Heck I don't care if its broadband or aligned as long as it works. Just give us the straight poop!
BTW My blood pressure is great (despite my life style)
I understand what you were saying about waiting for the 19Khz machine to go into production to check the coil compatability. But then you said SORRY I WAS Wrong
Dave J said:
Heck I don't care if its broadband or aligned as long as it works. Just give us the straight poop!
BTW My blood pressure is great (despite my life style)
reltolbert
New member
I have a Teknetics 11"DD coil and it works great with my Gold Bug.
Azsh07 has also said the same thing in the past.
Azsh07 has also said the same thing in the past.
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
Jackpine,
Coil A operates at 19 kHz.
Coil B operates at 19 kHz.
Both coils are designed and validated to operate at 19kHz.
Coil A is also designed and validated to also operate at 8 kHz.
What is the difference besides the sticker to tell you one coil is the A coil and the other coil is the B coil? The only significant performance difference will be that coil A is interchangeable with your other detector(s).
Yes, sure, there may be some minor tuning taking place on the dedicated 19kHz coil, but is that minor tweak worth $199. Would you even know the difference? Well of course you'd know the difference because it has a sticker on it.
Thats why I said I'd shake my head and sell them a sticker. In this case a $199 sticker. And that is apparently what some individuals want. And it looks like that is what they are going to get.
The most important question of this whole scenario is this: do the rest of us get to keep an interchangeable coil if we don't want the $199 sticker?
HH
Mike
Coil A operates at 19 kHz.
Coil B operates at 19 kHz.
Both coils are designed and validated to operate at 19kHz.
Coil A is also designed and validated to also operate at 8 kHz.
What is the difference besides the sticker to tell you one coil is the A coil and the other coil is the B coil? The only significant performance difference will be that coil A is interchangeable with your other detector(s).
Yes, sure, there may be some minor tuning taking place on the dedicated 19kHz coil, but is that minor tweak worth $199. Would you even know the difference? Well of course you'd know the difference because it has a sticker on it.
Thats why I said I'd shake my head and sell them a sticker. In this case a $199 sticker. And that is apparently what some individuals want. And it looks like that is what they are going to get.
The most important question of this whole scenario is this: do the rest of us get to keep an interchangeable coil if we don't want the $199 sticker?
HH
Mike
Jackpine Savage
Active member
Thanks for clearing that up. I totally misread the intent of your original post, taking it out of context and for that my sincere apologies.
I never questioned the validity of using the frat bros coil.. staying out of those discussions and letting those in the know respond. I agree for those that have them, the frat bros coil interchangeability is a bonus.
nuff said
Tom
I never questioned the validity of using the frat bros coil.. staying out of those discussions and letting those in the know respond. I agree for those that have them, the frat bros coil interchangeability is a bonus.
nuff said
Tom