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Don't know what these are.
Found them a year apart now I gotta know what they are.
 
...what part of the country did you find these. Any history of the location? Anything on the back?
 
Aloha Steve
Found on the east side of Kauai, Hawaii.
Nothing on the backs are far as I can tell.
I'll check up on the history of the area and get back to you. Mostly Sugar and Pineapple Plantations.
Mahalo
Dennis
 
Aloha Dennis! From the link below, The crown of the kingdom of Hawaii. I had never seen one quite like it before. For comparison, what do you think?
<img src="http://www.findmall.com/metal/uploads/pic2122.jpg" alt="" />
<img src="http://www.4dw.net/royalark/Hawaii/hawaii-arms.jpg" alt="" />
 
From the link below:
>>>
A cover sent from the Hawaiian Consulate at Gibraltar to Berlin, dated March 26, 1895 at Gibraltar. The cover bears a strike of the official mark used at the Gibraltar Consulate, AUXOFF-Gibraltar(crown).
<img src="http://www.hawaiianstamps.com/pm/offmarks/gib26mar96.jpg" alt="" />
Two principal categories comprise the official auxiliary marks:
* those used by various offices of the Hawaiian government either at home or abroad;
* those used by foreign consular offices located in Hawaii.
Seals and labels are admitted into the listing of official marks along with handstamps.<<
From the same link:
>>>Consular Offices Abroad, Department of Foreign Affairs
Hawaii maintained consular offices in various countries. In 1888, the countries with Hawaiian consulates were the United States (Washington, D. C., New York, San Francisco, Boston, Portland, Oregon and Port Townsend, Washington), Mexico, Guatemala, Panama, Peru, Chile (two offices), Paraguay, Uruguay, Great Britain (fourteen offices), Canada (twelve offices), Australian Colonies (five offices), New Zealand (two offices), Hong Kong, Shanghai, Singapore, Gibraltar, Tahiti, France (five offices), Germany (five offices), Spain (six offices), Canary Islands, Azores, Cape Verde Islands, Portugal (four offices), Italy (five offices), Holland (two offices), Belgium (four offices), Sweden (two offices), Norway (two offices), Denmark, Japan (two offices), Siam and Jaluit (Marshall Islands). The number of locations increased over the years. At least two offices had handstamps: Gibraltar and Spain. Two marks are recorded from Gibraltar and one from Spain.<<<
With nothing on the back, do you suppose it could be a mail tag of sorts? These are very interesting Dennis and something a local museum might know about. Hope this is a start in the right direction. Please let us know! Thank you for posting from paradise! <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
Aloha Steve
No word from the Local museum .
Someone said maybe a Mill Token for use at company store.
Then was said to be Dog License Tag from 1888.
I tried to find on the web, but no luck, Can you check the web and see what you come up with?
 
Aloha Dennis!
Thanks for the update. Here is a link to a group of collectors of Hawaiiana. In the token and coin section there are some Sugar Tags, Dog Tags, etc... but nothing that comes close to the age of you two tags.
Might be worth while sending a pic to the email on this page and see if you get any bites?
Good luck. Thanks for keeping us posted!
 
Aloha Steve
An e-mail from Diane Bandy of doglicense.org :
YES, Dennis, they are dog licenses from the Kingdom of Hawwaii. In fact i have one
from 1879 and 2 others. These were dug? they have an interesting patina......Will they be listed for sale? Please check out my website at www.doglicense.org They look like 1883s instead of 1888.
Now if I knew what to price them at I might sell them
Mahalo for your help Steve
 
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