Classic Iron Surprise

[Ronk]

As soon as I find a way to post a Video of how well my Classic 3SL with a small coil performs around iron and nails you might be surprised! But I will say I have seen a lot of videos with nails and coins grouped together with various detectors and some of the detectors Made to hunt in iron did not do as well as my Classic with a small Concentric coil.I do not have a DD coil to compare.The videos I have seen were mostly using DD coils.I've noticed that some videos would lay a coin at the other end of a nail and scan parallel and try to get a good audio hit and most of the time there's either no sound or a sharp clipped audio sound.I know for a fact I can get a good audio sound with the coin in that position that you wouldn't pass up in the field. I scanned it in different directions and got good solid hits with the disc set to either reject the nail or get a slight clipped audio.I raised the coil several inches and still got good hits.As soon as I get the test done with different coins and settings then I will post them.The Classic is not quite as fast as some of the newer detectors with fast recovery speeds but it performs very well in trash and separates good too using small coils.You just Might be surprised how the Classics can do with small coils in the trash! "Don't Ever Count The Classics Out!"
HH!

RonK

 

[Monte]

But I say .... Heck no! I'm not surprised at all and that's why they have been my favorite trashy-site coil for many, many years now (since I started with the Coinmaster III Plus which morphed into the excellent Classic series that followed).

I used to keep a 6

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Well yes, it's no secret that 2-filter machines like the classic (a various tesoro 2-filters, etc...) will see through a nail or two, effortlessly, to give a positive conductive hit on a coin underneath. But on nails solo (no conductive target underneath them) you will get non-repeatable clicks that you just mentally ignore.

And you don't even need a small coil to do it. The same is true for the stock standard coil, they just see through iron better than power-house deep-seeker machines. Of course going to a smaller coil gives you views of less objects-at-a-time, thus increasing the potential to have less masking (as is also true with any machine). The down-side, of course, is you don't go as deep with the smaller coil.

The power-house machines will go deeper, handle nastier soil, and have superior TID. But the 2-filter variety like the Classics see through iron better. It's a trade off.

And if you want to do even better yet, try a Compass 77b. If you think it's great to see next to and even underneath a nail or two, the 77b could do this trick with up to 3 or 4 nails (depending on size, etc...). Of course the benefits stopped there. In all other ways they were difficult to use. Not as deep as today's machines, a bear to keep balanced, no other form of disc, etc....

 

[Hombre]

I've owned some top of the line power-house detectors and the IDX Pro modified by Mr. Bill is one of them that I will always own. The IDX Pro that I have has tagged a spent Henry rifle cartridge case at a measured 10 inches deep with the 6 &1/2 inch coil. It also detects silver dimes and indian head pennies down to an honest seven or eight inches deep with the small BlueMax 600 coil, that's plenty good enough for me! I think I have found the holy grail of metal detectors with the IDX Pro, thanks to Monte and his posts on this excellent detector.

 

[Ronk]

I forgot to mention that mine also Has the Mr.Bill Mods and it's also one detector that I'll Always Keep AND Use! My coil is the (Discontinued 5.5" Ferret Coil) and it is Surprisingly Deep for such a little Guy! and Does separate very well in the trash! Your Modified IDX Pro is a Great Keeper Detector and will keep up with a lot of Newer Machines out there for depth and working in iron and other trash! I have used This Same detector for over 15 years and know it Very Well and know what it's capable of.Sure there other 2 filter detectors that also do well in iron but some of them loose quite a bit of depth with higher disc settings.My Modified Classic 3SL.."same as IDX minus meter" looses very little depth with higher disc settings.For a single frequency detector it still has it's own way of telling you what the target could be.It hits very well on silver as well as lower conductors.I know That for a fact! I like that 6.59 KHZ for the Classic! At max sensitivity it sure gets down there where targets lurk and it's disc seems to be accurate at depth and that IS a great feature.
It seems I've read years ago that one of the Compass models had a switch that could be adjusted so when a target is at a certain depth that it would give a good audio signal even if it was iron or the switch in reverse would reject the target.I might be wrong but someone else that knows those detectors could probably correct me on that.Anyway it gave the user a decision to dig a deep target with a good audio not knowing if it was target was good or not.Something like one of those detectors that the disc was only good for 5 -6 or so inches and after that..Everything had good audio no matter what the target was.It just gave you a choice to dig a deep target or gave you fairly accurate target id about 5-6 inches. I better stop now before I confuse Myself!
HH!
RonK

 

[Hombre]

Hi Ronk

I'm sure we are in agreement about the capabilities of the Classic series of White's detectors, only those that have never used them will question the performance of these discontinued Whites detectors. Like Monte has posted in the past, they were never promoted by the dealers or factory very well, I had a DFX when the IDX Pro was still available and the IDX Pro would kick the DFX's booty in the small iron infested old house yards and go just as deep or deeper in the cleaner areas.

 

[Ronk]

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