Menu
What's new
Find's Treasure Forums

Welcome to Find's Treasure Forums, Guests!

You are viewing this forums as a guest which limits you to read only status.

Only registered members may post stories, questions, classifieds, reply to other posts, contact other members using built in messaging and use many other features found on these forums.

Why not register and join us today? It's free! (We don't share your email addresses with anyone.) We keep email addresses of our users to protect them and others from bad people posting things they shouldn't.

Click here to register!

Need Support Help?

Cannot log in?, click here to have new password emailed to you

Changed email? Forgot to update your account with new email address? Need assistance with something else?, click here to go to Find's Support Form and fill out the form.

Classic IDX vs IDX Pro

H

Hunt4Fun

New member
Hi all,

I have been looking at the White's Classic IDX and the IDX Pro. I can't find anything other than cosmetic differences in the two models, but I am not a technician.

Are there design differences between a Classic IDX and an IDX Pro? If so, how do the differences effect performance?


Will appreciate any comments, thanks.
Hunt4Fun
 
Before you jump into either one, you need to keep in mind that both have been (or soon will be) manufacturer discontinued. And the IDX Pro replaced the Classic IDX a few years ago. Some say that the technology is the same and that it is only cosmetics. Others say the Pro version is more stable and provides more depth of detection. Frankly, if you haven't purchased either one yet, you may want to wait until the new M6 is released. Even if you don't want or can't afford a new M6, and you really want the IDX, some of the guys buying the M6 will probably be selling some nice Classics and Pros. Monte or Bill would be two good ones to ask about the technical differences between the two models. Both of these gents are quite familiar with them and could provide you some very truthful and accurate comparisons. HH Randy
 
To make it a Pro over the regular IDX, Whites boosted the gain in the receiver discriminate circuit. It was a real circuit change, not a perceived one.

Everything being equal, the Pro version should be able to hit on a target a bit deeper than the regular one.

Mr. Bill
 
Hi,

In my opinion concerning the Classic IDX vs IDX Pro, it's not so much the higher gain of the IDX Pro that should persuade you to buy it over the IDX.

In order to get the <u>optimum</u> performance from either model Mr. Bill offers (or used to offer) a modification to the Classic IDX & IDX Pro that includes <b>BOTH</b> a threshold control knob, and a Ground Balance knob. These two additions is what turns the Classic IDX & IDX Pro models into true performers in the field. The extra gain isn't as noticeable in my opinion. (Although, the mods to the IDX include the extra gain that the IDX Pro already has.)

If you are serious about purchasing the IDX or IDX pro, look for those that have Mr. Bills mods. You will be pleasantly surprised you did.

J in VA (owner of Mr. Bill modified IDX)
 
a flurry of posts from devoted detectorists who obviously have a greater appreciation for the excellent Classic circuitry originated by Mr. William Lahr for White's Electronics than White's Electronics apparently had!

My three favorite Classic circuited models have two or three people who deserve a LOT of recognition.

William (Bill) Lahr originally designed the Classic series by contract so White's would have a few easy-to-use and decent performing models to compliment their high-tech upper-end and compete with the likes of Tesoro, Fisher and a few other silent-search detectors that were popular.

All of them, from the Classic I & Classic II to the Classic III Plus were very good, but it was the Classic III Plus that really captured my attention! It shared the same coils as I used on my upper-end White's models and it rivaled the ghost towning units I had been using there and in similar iron infested sites. I especially liked the broad-range Discrimination with great low end acceptance for working black sand river beaches.

The only thing missing for most typical coin hunters was a Target ID model.

John Earle gets a solid round of applause for his development of the excellent Target ID circuitry using "flash technology" that was introduced with the Classic ID. The same TID circuitry was used on the Classic IDX and the IDX Pro.

I've put all three of these fine TID models up against all comers in field hunting environments and they impress others, and continue to impress me. One of the best batch of detectors for the dollar from any manufacturer with quick response, quiet and stable, and excellent for dealing with iron junk!

They have very good turn-on-and-go performance, but lacked full-versatility due to the lack of more manual control.

William ("Mr. Bill") Crabtree came to our rescue! There are a number of good to very good detectors on the market, but they just lack that something special in the way of manual control for ground environment, fine-tuning of the Threshold, and ability to set the important tuning for bad conditions and/or the use of accessory coils.

The Classic III, Classic ID and IDX/IDX Pro are ALL very good models, but the modifications done by "Mr. Bill" advance the 'very good' Classic models to 'excellent' detectors!

So, just a warning to anyone who dares ask about the now discontinued Classics .... be ready for a lot of support and praise for their in-field performance and the "three wise men" who make it possible to enjoy them to their fullest! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Monte

Okay, I got that out of my system! :hot:
 
I have the Classic ID and Classic IDX Pro and both have been modified by Mr.Bill and just having the ability to adjust threshold and GB is more than enough to sell me on either.You really begin to appreciate the ability to GB not only to ground conditions but the coil your using to the ground conditions and that to me is most important to versatility VS overall depth which is excellent on both.I would like to thank Monte for putting me on to the Classics and to Mr Bill for making them KEEPERS. HH Bill
 
The classic serie detectors would have to be listed in the top ten of the metal detectors hall of fame. My son has a modified IDX, I think Mr. Bill modified it about 5 years ago and it is still in perfect working condition. The IDX series have a short learning curve, great target seperation, and when modified get good depth, what more could you ask for. TB
 
Wow!!!! The responses from all of you guys are really great. Thanks a lot.

Because of your answers I am absolutely sure that I will buy one of these machines. But, you guys have introduced me to Mr. Bill's modifications, and I now have some questions about the modifications.

1. When an IDX gets modified, does it get a "gain" increase?
2. If an IDX and an IDX Pro both get modified, will one perform better than the other?
3. Is the Mr. Bill that does the modifications the same Mr. Bill that moderates this forum?


Thanks again
Hunt4Fun
 
Thanks Monte for this and all of your other posts.

Hunt4Fun
 
Mr. Bill, I am having trouble e-mailing you. Could you please send me a-mail so I can get ahold of you. I have an old IDX Pro, I would like for you to modify for me. Thank you, Shawn countryboyzbiz@yahoo.com
 
Not sure if you received my note? I am having trouble e-mailing you. Could you please send me a e-mail so I can contact you. I have an old IDX Pro that I would like for you to modify for me. Please, contact me at countryboyzbiz@yahoo.com
Thank you, Shawn
 
havenfunshawn said:
Mr. Bill, I am having trouble e-mailing you. Could you please send me a-mail so I can get ahold of you. I have an old IDX Pro, I would like for you to modify for me. Thank you, Shawn countryboyzbiz@yahoo.com
Click to expand...

Hi there havenfunshawn,

Mr. Bill is no longer doing the mods, just look down the list of threads and pull up the thread " IDX Pro....Reviews Please " In that thread is a post by Monte and he is basically saying that Mr. Bill is no longer doing the mods anymore. If you are interested in ground balancing your IDX Pro, then you can do it easily with a small slotted screwdriver, but make small adjustments only. If you are interested, I could talk you through it. The Classics like your IDX Pro, and the non-metered Classic lll SL once they are ground balanced, they generally stay ground balanced for that particular coil and soil. They are not touchy at all, just set it and forget it. I have the IDX Pro with Mr. Bills mod and also the Classic lll SL without the mods, it took me all of about couple of minutes to ground balance either one, AND I have not made anymore ground balance adjustments to either one.
 
Hi havenfunshawn,

I believe Mr Bill (Crabtree) has stopped doing the Classic mods. You can try contacting him through his old website: http://www.surfscanner.com/

Good luck
Bob
 
Hombre said:
Mr. Bill is no longer doing the mods, just look down the list of threads and pull up the thread " IDX Pro....Reviews Please " In that thread is a post by Monte and he is basically saying that Mr. Bill is no longer doing the mods anymore.
Click to expand...

For me, this is very unfortunate and a huge disappointment to hear. I have a mint IDX Pro that I had planned to have modded by Mr. Bill when I could afford to do so. But now, sadly, I guess that is no longer a possibility. I would do it myself, but I have no experience and I would be too afraid to attempt such a project on a mint machine for fear of screwing it up.
 
Bill (Ohio) said:
Hombre said:
Mr. Bill is no longer doing the mods, just look down the list of threads and pull up the thread " IDX Pro....Reviews Please " In that thread is a post by Monte and he is basically saying that Mr. Bill is no longer doing the mods anymore.
Click to expand...

For me, this is very unfortunate and a huge disappointment to hear. I have a mint IDX Pro that I had planned to have modded by Mr. Bill when I could afford to do so. But now, sadly, I guess that is no longer a possibility. I would do it myself, but I have no experience and I would be too afraid to attempt such a project on a mint machine for fear of screwing it up.
Click to expand...

Bill (Ohio),

Don't fret over not having the Mr. Bill's mod, I have mild to lightly mineralized soil and have only done an initial ground balance to my modified IDX Pro when I mounted the 5.3 BullsEye coil. The ground balance on the Classic series is not touchy or twitchy and handles a broad range of ground mineral without messing with GB adjustment. If mine did'nt have the mods, I would not miss it that much. You can take a small screwdriver and adjust the GB to where the it is just a 'bit' positive, chances are you wont have to do it again, unless you change coils or have a wide swing in ground minerals.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top