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DeepTech

Cibola Field Test

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Just letting everyone know that the Cibola Field Test is now available on our website. Click on the Tesoro logo at the top of the forum page or visit us at www.tesoro.com. The Vaquero report will be added shortly.
Thank you,
Heidi
Customer Service
Tesoro Electronics
 
"My test bench has a yardstick attached and to test for maximum capacity, I started at the 24
 
How do you get from 24 inches to 22 1/8 inches using only two marks? My yardsticks are marked in 1/8 inch increments which would put it at 23 3/4 inches. Is that more believeable than 22 1/8 inches<img src="http://www.jb-ms.com/images/Smilies/w00t.gif">?
JB
 
Andy, I read that and wrote him a e-mail. He was using a quarter!!! I told him my Bandido 2 umax would only air test a dime at 7 inches. He said he had one that always tested a dime at 10 to 12"!!!
Man, there must be something wrong with my machine.
Jerry
 
I've been chastised a couple of times for being negative about Tesoro detectors on their forum but in all honesty your 7" air test on a dime is typical of the pre Cibola, Vaquaro and Tejon Tesoros. I haven't used any of the three new models but I've had quite a few Tesoros, including the LST with several coils, and none of them would air test dimes very well. The only 6 inch deep dimes I've found with any Tesoro were found with the Golden
 
First of all, I only use an air test to assure that the detector is working properly. The real test is depth of detection in the ground, under actual hunting conditions. I also use a Bandido II uMax and the deepest that I have ever found a dime was at approximately seven to eight inches...most dimes that I have found have been at six inches or less.
I have not used a Cibola, so the only comment that I can make is that I have strong doubts if it can detect a dime at twenty inches. Just my humble opinion. Please have a great day! Kelley (Texas) <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
I was just funnin with you guys, I know there is nothing wrong with my bandido,Its a great machine, and i'm sure the new machines are more powerful. i'm still suprised that Tesoro would allow this on there factory website.
Jerry
 
Quarter at 24", no way. I've got a Cibola and love it, but nothing detects a quarter at 24".
 
I am reluctant to be critical, but this field test amounted to just an excursion using a new detector. No real substance in regards to the pros and cons of the detector, no technical information, no hints of using the detector to it's full potential.
While I have no doubt that the Cibola will go deep, I have a hard time grasping the air test claim in this test report. Even if the air test results are truthful, I doubt if you will detect a coin that deep in the soil.
In conclusion, I have learned more about this detector from the posted remarks of actual users on the forums...learned nothing from this test report. While I have no doubt that the intentions of Tesoro were honorable, this type of test report will not advance the true merits of the capabilities of the Cibola to the metal detecting community. Just my humble opinion, please have a great day! Kelley (Texas) <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
As deep as any umax going...that is to say that I never saw any depth increase, in ground, over say a good Bandito II umax verses a tejon, Vaquero or Cibola.
I did get impressive air test results but have yet to go Air detecting in my life.
All three of these machines loose depth in mineralised soil in an amount that is enough to bring them inline with most good Umax machines ...a Tigershark or Lobo.
Great machines these new 3 but I have owned all three and everyone had a significant depth loss verses air in our ground. I just went back to a Bandito II umax as it basically has same depoth but a much better all metal mode......again this is in my ground.....not saying what should happen elsewhere.
Scott
 
I just bought a new Cibola and Im going to ground test a few dimes in the morning. I will bury a few dimes at diffrent depths and I will let youi know tomorrow!!!!
Shiloh Digger
 
The first part in italics is what I thought in November.
<EM>I read the manual and tried a set up for maximum depth. Gain wide open, threshold wide open. Disc all the way down. Sounded like a telegraph going off in my head so I backed it down to where I could get a comfortable air test with very little falsing. Gain wide open, threshold at about the one o'clock position, disc all the way down. (I should say that I did try to air test targets at threshold wide open and it was very, very deep. I did no measurements because I knew that there was no way that I could hunt with this setting.) This machine is one of the most threshold to depth ratio based detectors I have ever used. For instance, I lost 7 inches on an Eagle I button just by moving the threshold from the one o'clock position to all the way counter clockwise. Definitely keep an eye on your threshold knob when hunting.
Here's what I got when all signals were repeatable (with headphones).
Modern quarter 10.5"
Barber half dollar 12"
.54 minie 12"
Eagle I button 12" (dropped to 5" when I turned the threshold down)
Eagle breast plate 17"
</EM>
Now I don't get to detect as often as I would like but I can tell you what I think of the Cibola now after hitting the dirt with it a few times. After my air test above I have since found that I can comfortably hunt with max gain and the threshold pointing at the 2 o'clock position - which does add a little more depth. I have also discovered that, in my ground, the fixed ground balance has yet to go negative on me. With a perfectly set up gb on other machines I used, I would have to constantly readjust the gb for my ever changing ground - so with my Tejon, I have to set it quite a bit on the positive side to compensate for my difficult dirt. I dug minies anywhere from 5 to 10 inches in some pretty rough soil with the Cibola and, for a factory set ground balance, I'd say that is pretty good. I can squeeze a little more out of my Tejon with a positive gb but for a $320 detector the Cibola is about as good as it gets as far as I'm concerned.
 
I can understand some substancial differences in "In Ground" performance tests....But, half the distance on an air test as reported in the official Tesoro field test on that quarter? Maybe the tester was using a 'hot' quarter with that hot circuitry <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">: Maybe I just didn't read it correctly. It seems that product performance and field test reviews have been pretty misleading lately. I am sure that Tesoro technicians have conducted their own air tests throughout development of this new machine. Do their tests confirm this 20 plus inches on the quarter. They posted this field test for us to read, so surely they must be reading the responses from forum posters. I think a response from them is appropriate and should be interesting. Good hunting
 
are honest and in line with what the Cibola should be capable of doing. I have been thinking about getting a Cibola, it should do great in the mild soil down here in this area. Say, great hearing from you! Please have a great day! Kelley (Texas) <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
I won't make you any promises but I truly believe that you will find the Cibola to be a very capable machine; especially in the good ground that you speak of. It's lightweight and balanced nicely. Works wonders in iron infested sites, and is a pretty deep detector to be such a "basic" machine. Have yourself a great day too friend. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
Thanks Guys, this is the kind of field tests I have been looking for. It sounds to me like the new machines are capable of up to 40% better air and ground test.This is significant and Tesoro can be proud of that. But lets just try to keep things relistic.
Jerry
 
He could have used a special yardstick with markings every 8". <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
John
 
Every reply except one to Heidi's field test announcement at one of the other Tesoro forums has been deleted.
 
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