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Cibola and Compadre not picking up gold ring!!

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RobRcer

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My dad has the Sandshark. He found a 14K white gold ring at the beach (at least, thats what the markings say). It has 4 small diamonds in it. We are not sure if they are real though. He also has two other 14K wedding bands he found with it, and no diamonds. I ran the two bands across my Cibola and my brothers Compadre and it picks it up fine just below the 5cent marking. But the "diamond" ring wont pick up till i turn it down to iron. This is all air test. Why does it do this? Also, why does it not pick gold up at the 5cent mark? It picks the bands up halfway between iron and 5cent. I got the detector last year. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! I hopefully going to try the beach tonight. Happy Hunting!!
 
I'm no expert, but what you saw, I would expect, unless it is a big honkin' ring. The thinner the band, the lower the discriminate would be needed to detect it. That is why many people will throw a rusty nail on the ground when they start hunting, and then set the discriminate just above that target. You will get a lot of junk that way, but you will also occasionally find a gold ring too. Try discriminating out a nail, then throw the ring down and see if it still finds the ring.

Best of luck

J.
 
And, I would like to add to what rentasquid said and suggest. That just because your knob on your detector is in the same position as the knob on your friends machine. Does NOT mean that they are set for the same rejection. These knobs only have an analog pot underneath. All of which can vary to a degree. And, quiet possibly could even be from a different manufacture all together. Which could vary the settings even more. That is why you should always have a test item. Of the smallest size you would be willing to dig. To set your discrimination before you go hunting. And, as rentasquid said, you gotta be willing to dig the junk if you wanta dig gold. It is a sad fact but, yet it is fact.
 
In the foil range you have low foil and high foil. 10kt, 14kt yellow gold will hit in the high foil range and up. White gold hits in the low foil range. A better way to picture it is with assigning numbers. Say we assign 0 to iron and 30 to a nickel. Using that range, White gold would hit around 2.

Platinum hits in the same area, as does rose gold. Finding White gold and Platinum means hunting in that area that just breaks above iron.

Using tone id machine allows you to run it with 0 discrimination and still id what is under your coil.

HH
 
that the ring is around a size 10, thin women's ring. it has 4 diamonds, and is 14K white gold. No wonder i havent got any rings with it. I have kept it set so it discriminates out most of the gold. It only picks up 14K white and yellow gold where i had it. I use the Cibola for beach hunting and it goes deep!! Thanks again!! Happy Hunting!!
 
The Cibola will not pick up certain gold as well as others.

For example I have a small gold chaun which will hardly peep even with disc turned down to nothing, and sens turned all they way up. This is with the coil touching the chain. The chain is bunched up in a mass so the surface area is maximum.

You will likely miss some gold. The Lobo ST is supposedly a better gold machine.

All you can do is hunt at minimum disc, sens turned up, go slow, dig everything. You might find some.
 
If at the beach there isn't too much iron- you can actually lower the disc to just below iron. When you get a signal if it sounds "true", dig it up and see what it is. The reason why I say this is because two months ago, I was at a camp site that has been pounded to death, and was using the minelab explorer and wasn't getting too much because of iron...EVERYWHERE! I turned on the Vaquero (As normally I bring 2 machines out to the field with me) and got a clean signal after ground balancing. It sounded great! The disc was right at Iron and the machine gave that "true" sound that I mentioned earlier. So thinking that I would be adding to my square nail collection, I dug down and less than two inch's from the surface out pops a gold masonic pin. The pin is circa 1860 and truly beautiful! If you do a search in the forum under my name you will find it! Because I always trust but verify, I increased discrimination on the find to see when the machine would no longer pick it up. "WOW" was I amazed, I inched the discrimination dial up just a tick above the word "iron" and couldn't hear the gold pin anymore! I also took the Minelab Explorer over the same ground and all it did was pick up the multiple iron nails in the area- no signal at all other than the low, blaring sound of iron! So lessons learned, keep the disc at appropriate levels in any site! The next time out to the site (which has been POUNDED by hundreds of detectors!!!) I found a beautiful half dollar at 7 or 8 inches on edge! My disc was right at iron, and the signal sounded broken but needed to be investigated. Glad I did!

You have a great machine with a Superb warranty so listen for the sounds and they will tell you much! Good signals will sound "clean, crisp, nice...etc" Bad signals will have a marginal "click" sound to them. Modulate your sensitivity so that you don't bleed it through- in other words don't turn it up to high (Super-tune) unless you are in decent ground where this can be done without falseing. Hope these minor points help!
 
you don't detect the whole chain, just a link. Most of the time on the smaller ones, its not the chain you pick up, but the clasp as the clasp tends to be larger and easier to get a signal on.

HH
 
I did and air test with the Compadre and it only picked up 10k gold rings below at ot below the 3 setting, but 14K I picked up at the five, plus its the same with my Cutlass II.
 
Hi Rob,

The first thing I do with a new machine is make the disc knob points in the same place for all machines. I use a nickle and note where it "just" cuts out. Then I move the knob so that the pointer is just to the right of the 5ct mark as the nickle is "just" cutting out. With this done I use a zinc penny and note where it goes away. On Cibola and Vaquero models I add a mark for this, where as the brown Umax machines have a 1ct Zn mark that will usually lose a penny in the same way as a nickle-just past the 1ct mark. With this done I know the disc knob is accurate. I have gotten machines that vary GREATLY.

With this adjustment done I have found that typically a mans white gold 10-14k ring will go away just after the nickle is gone. Yellow gold uses copper as a filler and will usually go away a bit higher.

Most of the rings I find are real small and thin made of 10 or 14k yellow gold. These rings will disapear between foil and 5ct so too much disc is easy. But the trade off is lots of gum wrappers. I keep a small gold ring for "calibration" so as not to use too much disc when the trash is sparse and I am looking for such treasures.

But when I want to cherry pick a dirty park I will jack up the disc to just accept a zinc penny and take home the pennys, dimes and quarters with little trash.

Hope this helps.

HH
 
heres a diamond ring i just found with a compadre, it will find them but turn down the discrmation & don`t worry so much:detecting:
 
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