Changes to :minelab:Combined Audio

[Richard@BackwoodsDetectors]

Got in a Short hunt this evening.... I use the Combined Audio . In the default position, nickels have the same tone as the pulltabs. I changed the 2nd section to include only nickels 11-15 with audio at 1080 hz and the coin section to 1080 set at 36-45 . After I changed the setting, I got a strong pulltab signal with "very crowded" high tone.
The numbers were jumping 12/26 to 12/12 with the 12/26 being very dominant. Pinpointed and dug, Buffalo Nickel very very close to a pulltab. I really think that I would have missed it if I hadn't narrowed down the nickel range and changed to a high frequency, The very slight high audio caught my attention..

For those concerned about depth, I dug a 41 wheatie at a measured 9"... Next to a piece of iron but I heard both signals. I had the sensitivity at Audio +1 but the signal was still good on the penny.
I loved my E-TRAC but "she's" gone... CTX 3030 is replacing her... Richard

 

[Digger]

Good to hear the results of your thinking "outside the box". I guarantee..... the more you learn about it, the better you're going to like it! The flexibility and functionality of the CTX 3030 is nothing short of amazing. Thanks for posting. HH Randy

 

[DrBobinMO]

Great post Richard. I thought of trying something similiar to help increase my nickel finds and maybe a few gold rings too


Thanks for sharing.

 

[Don in South Jersey]

Great info, thanks...

 

[D&P-OR]

Great report Richard.---It's looking more & more like Minelab has a "winner" in the CTX.---------Del

 

[bcoop]

Thanks Richard for taking time to post your success. I told you that you were going to be kidnapped by the CTX 3030.

Keep up the good work, I hope you sell a 100 of them.

BCOOP

 

[Paul (IL)]

Good report Richard, I can't wait to get my hands on mine.

 

[mtwolf2270]

I was not an Etrac hunter, I have an explorer SE with SEF coil so; I am sure I will have a learning curve. I went back and am reading Andy's book paying attention to the Etrac section. Just so, I can grasp the fe 12 line and the numbers etc. I know the CTX is a different machine entirely then the Etrac but knowledge can never hurt. I so cannot wait for the CTX and usually dig pull tabs and foil just to be safe. I hope the CTX will give me the abilty to dig less trash. I cannot wait going

 

[wildherre]

The assigned tones feature in 2 tone, 4 tone & combined is a start but I would sure like to see a firmware update to make multi tone fully assignable like the big dog in the Whites lineup.. Ive seen what this feature can do on the Whites and have wanted it on a Minelab ever since.. Think of how nice it would be to click any square in the 35x50 grid and make it any tone you want...I want it.... No need for a machine of this caliber to handicapped.... wildherre

 

[GunnarMN]

thats good depth on that penny , keep us informed

 

[TerryinHawaii]

Posted by wildherre"
The assigned tones feature in 2 tone, 4 tone & combined is a start but I would sure like to see a firmware update to make multi tone fully assignable like the big dog in the Whites lineup.. Ive seen what this feature can do on the Whites and have wanted it on a Minelab ever since.. Think of how nice it would be to click any square in the 35x50 grid and make it any tone you want...I want it.... No need for a machine of this caliber to handicapped.... wildherre

Great idea, Wildherre! However I also want to be above to adjust the volume for the different frequencies. I have a bad hearing problem and I need more volume on the lower frequencies and less volume on the higher frequencies.

 

[Digger]

The concept is good. But having 1750 separate possible tones (35 X 50), would be an "earful" to say the least. The X-TERRA 705 has 28 different pitched tones, and many people find that to be too many to correctly identify targets strictly by sound. I can see the benefit of setting up all silver coins to sound the same. And maybe separating the IH pennies from Zincolns, and pulling up nickels. But for all the "unknowns" in between (buttons, jewelry etc), it seems to me that it is less confusing to hear one of four tones and simply look at the display to identify the target. Who knows? Maybe it is something they will consider for a firmware update. JMHO HH Randy

 

[Blank Planet]

am not familiar with the whites but several more tone boxes would be good for my hunting if i wanted to set up a full pattern for all coins but if just targeting one coin and maybe digging some others if they come along it should be OK guess it depends on the site and knowing the site?

BP

 

[wildherre]

Different volumes for different tones would be great for people with hearing impairments I bet Rick ND would appreciate something like that ... At work we get a hearing test annually and get a report with a graph of how our hearing in all ranges has changed over the years.. Maybe just a simple +1 and -1 value would be enough to level out the volumes... Also for digger, I believe 4 tones or the 5 tones of the combined mode are nearly enough for most people, but being able to assign those 4 or 5 tones anywhere on the grid with out being restricted by the the bins is important.. Say start with your 4 bins and be able to select hot spots, say nickels, gold coins, Indian head pennies and assign them a high tone while keeping a more traditional high to low tone range on the non hot spot values..wildherre

 

[Digger]

I hear ya! As I said early on, it includes nearly everything on my wish list! HH Randy

 

[Beyonder]

Hi i got a few questions: can u re-size the 4 sections up top? how accurate is the depth meter? and compared to the etrac, how does it deal with iron falseing?

I got an opportunity to get one, but im not sure its a good deal as my etrac is only almost 2 years old and I got a sunray probe, 12x15 sef, 6x8 sef. The only features I see that would really help me is the target trace, water proof, as it rains alot here and maybe the 5 tone combined (5TC). All the old sites here have bucket loads of iron, and i need something to help me kill falseing, as it would be a great boon! I am really tired of digging 10 inch holes to find that I was chasing an iron halo!

any help with ctx 3030 and iron falseing data would b great
ty much

Bey

 

[Beyonder]

I need some answers please!

 

[Digger]

Hi i got a few questions: can u re-size the 4 sections up top? how accurate is the depth meter? and compared to the etrac, how does it deal with iron falseing?

I need some answers please!

Yes, you can resize the 4 sections above the ferrous line in Combined. Here are some posts in which that was mentioned.

http://www.minelab.com/usa/treasure-talk/ctx-3030-tone-id-profiles-modifying-target-response-parameters-for-your-hunt
http://www.minelab.com/usa/treasure-talk/combined-tone-id-profile-on-the-ctx-3030-the-best-of-both-worlds
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1701855,1701928#msg-1701928
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1707643,1707657#msg-1707657
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1703867,1704691#msg-1704691
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1706293,1706338#msg-1706338


The depth meter is numerical, can be either inches or centimeters, and is very accurate.


Having the ability to reject the iron from providing an audio tone, but still having it appear on the display (even with multiple targets under the coil) the Ferrous - Coin Separation mode eliminated much of the iron falsing that I've experienced with the E-TRAC. But in all fairness, lowering the sensitivity of the E-TRAC and slowing down the sweep speed will also reduce iron falsing. With the CTX 3030, I've been able to run with a higher Sensitiivity setting than the E-TRAC, at the same sites.

 

[Beyonder]

ty much sir!!!