Can't find the post about the "Hank" coil wrap, so I'll just start a new one

[MarkCZ]

In an earlier topic it came up about the different ways to wrap the coil up the shaft and forum member Dave-J chimed in with the idea of straight up the shaft then just make a loop (a hank) with the extra length of coil and just not wrap it at all.
Okay, I've never really liked the phone cord effect of wrapping the coil up the shaft, I've never really had any problems with doing it, but I just never liked the kinked up cable when you change coils and knowing that it couldn't be good for the cord.
Bla.. bla...................

So, I worked on my first "Hank Style" coil cord. With this idea you don't wrap the cord up the shaft, I made one flex loop just above the coil, then straight up the shaft near the control housing, there I just made a coil (a small hank) and brought the connector out of the hank and then made the connection. Now after doing this I'm really liking the idea. The 1266 has a pretty short cord but I can see how this idea would work on any length cord.
I tied the cable to the shaft with Velcro tape that I got from Harbor Freight, it came in a pretty large roll.

Below is the "Hank Style" coil cable wrap! (I'm officially naming it the Hank Style)
Next I'm going to do my F2

Mark

 

[MarkCZ]

Okay, I just did the F2 "Hank Style" the hank loop looks like it touching the floor but its not!

Mark

 

[MarkCZ]

Here is my Whites 5900 "Hank Style", this coil had a LONG cable.
It would have been a lot less to do this one if that cord wasn't so kinked up.
It looks like this would also make swapping coils easier too.

Mark

 

[SkiWhiz]

Looks good Hank, oops I mean Mark. Seems like alittle too much "slack" near the coil on the F2, the F2 is very sensitive, I would want to keep the cable from moving near the coil.

 

[MarkCZ]

Looks good Hank, oops I mean Mark. Seems like alittle too much "slack" near the coil on the F2, the F2 is very sensitive, I would want to keep the cable from moving near the coil.

I have seen a lot of people wrap the cable Tight close to the coil, and for the life of me I don't know why?
If the cable doesn't have enough slack in it to move then it doesn't do anything.
If the cable is tied tight close to the coil and you change the coil angle much then the flex point is very narrow and that can cause the cable to break over time.
The way I start off from the coil gives the cable much more of flex point, it actually rolls the cable rather than bending it. Another thing I see people do is wrap the cable around the front of the shaft? I always start of wrapping it to the heel of the coil rather than the loop being out over the front and center of the coil.

So, I wrap it starting off with just enough bow in the cable to allow the cable to flex when I move the coil, like if I'm detecting the side of a slope, or going up or down hills but not enough for the cable to be floppy or move or wiggle while I'm sweeping the coil.
A cable break at the connector isn't a big deal, a cable break at the coil and well, you have to buy a new coil.

Mark

 

[WV62]

Nice work little brother.

Big brother Ron

 

[MarkCZ]

Nice work little brother.

Big brother Ron

Did you see that 10" coil in the 1266 pictures?
The coil and the "Hank" cable wrap works really good!

Thanks for the compliment

Mark

 

[therover]

I was wondering what to do when you have lots of cable left at the end !!!

 

[SkiWhiz]

Nice work little brother.

Big brother Ron

Did you see that 10" coil in the 1266 pictures?
The coil and the "Hank" cable wrap works really good!

Thanks for the compliment

Mark

It does look good Mark. After I saw the picture of your 1266/10" coil setup I said to myself "wow" I bet he digs some deep goodies with that combo. P.S. I thank you & your brother (Ron) for all the info on the 1266, good to know there are a couple good honest guys that use/have used the 1266 & are willing to answer any questions I might have. Not to start a war in the family but which one of you has the hottest 1266, there that ought to get something stirred up . Steve.

 

[WV62]

Nice work little brother.

Big brother Ron

Did you see that 10" coil in the 1266 pictures?
The coil and the "Hank" cable wrap works really good!

Thanks for the compliment

Mark

It does look good Mark. After I saw the picture of your 1266/10" coil setup I said to myself "wow" I bet he digs some deep goodies with that combo. P.S. I thank you & your brother (Ron) for all the info on the 1266, good to know there are a couple good honest guys that use/have used the 1266 & are willing to answer any questions I might have. Not to start a war in the family but which one of you has the hottest 1266, there that ought to get something stirred up . Steve.

Hottest 66 I was going to say mine until I read the part about honest, Mark has been reporting better air test numbers. We have been trying to get together and test them at the same place and see if there is any difference. I would be happy with a tie.

Ron in WV

 

[dirt lizard]

Does that wrap cause falsing ? I have never seen it done like that before

 

[MarkCZ]

Does that wrap cause falsing ? I have never seen it done like that before

I haven't field tested it yet (the hank loop) but I'm pretty certain that it won't. The loop isn't big enough to move or flop while swinging the coil so don't see anything about it to cause a performance problem.

I didn't come up with the idea of the coiled up cable that idea I read from a post from forum member dave-J who is an employee of first texas. In a post he said he does a "Hank Loop" with his coil and runs the cable straight up the shaft.
He went on to say that it looks funny, and it goes against the instructions in the users manual, but he said that its way better for the cable then all the tight coils up the shaft.
Now, he never posted any pictures of his rig and when he referred to "Hank" in the post it wasn't clear to some of the other posters (and me) just what he meant, then a forum member found pic of looping a rope/cord around your hand and your elbow and that being a "Hank"

I liked the idea because I've never like the kinked up coil cable and I never liked changing the coil with a long coil cable and doing 20 or 30 wraps up the shaft, that's a lot of tight bending and stressing of the cable.
Dave said it looks funny, but as I look at mine I think it looks good, looks neater, and I'm pretty sure its going to make switching coils easier.

Okay, I did some searching and I just found the other topic where the "Hank" idea came from.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?35,1550573,1566282#msg-1566282

Maybe Dave will drop in with some input on my pictures and if that is indeed what he was talking about.

Mark

 

[MarkCZ]

It does look good Mark. After I saw the picture of your 1266/10" coil setup I said to myself "wow" I bet he digs some deep goodies with that combo. P.S. I thank you & your brother (Ron) for all the info on the 1266, good to know there are a couple good honest guys that use/have used the 1266 & are willing to answer any questions I might have. Not to start a war in the family but which one of you has the hottest 1266, there that ought to get something stirred up . Steve.

The reason I tried the hank style cable loop on the 1266 first! was because that coil in the picture is a Brand New To Me coil. I just traded my (very rare) 5"x10" coil to another forum member for the the 10". But in a PM reply from him he corrected me in it being a 10.5" coil, not a 10" coil.
Early test with the hank wrapped 10.5" coil in my test garden looks really good!

My big brother started out in the Fisher 1200 series years ago with a new 1265x, I believe he will tell you that many of his best finds came with the detector. Well for many reasons he drifted away for beep & digs but never really got past how well he did with that 1265. As fate would have it years later I got my 1266 gave to me by a neighbor friend, big brother then got re-inspired to getting back into a 1200 series.
So, he has much more of a history of the 1200's than I do, I'm about a year into the 1200's.

Mark

 

[Dave J.]

Thanks, MarkCZ, good photos of how "hank style" is done.

--Dave J.

 

[Fisherfinder]

Hey Mark,..... That coil looks familiar.

lol

That coil on a 1266 is an outstanding set up.
(don't forget to keep an eye out for another one just like it so I can replace it)

 

[MarkCZ]

Hey Mark,..... That coil looks familiar.

lol

That coil on a 1266 is an outstanding set up.
(don't forget to keep an eye out for another one just like it so I can replace it)

Yea, I got it from this old lady that only drove it 3 miles to the store once a month.

Mark

 

[MarkCZ]

Okay, I did the hank style on my coinstrike. I knew the cable on it was kinked up really bad, it has the long cable for hip-mounting the control housing so that means that the cable had a lot wraps around the staff. I had to put extra velcro on the hank loop because the cable wanted to flip around and go every which way, it didn't want to do what I wanted it to do

Below is my Coinstrike with the coil cable done up "Hank Style" one problem I can see with this would be increasing the length of the staff, especially if the hank has a lot of coils in it and a kinked up cable, Now the short cable hanks wouldn't be any more of a problem.
Another good side, it could also be very helpful for switching back and forth from hip-mount and staff mounted, just undo the hank.

Mark