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Canada got it right
- Thread starter Dancer
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REVIER
Well-known member
Dancer said:
Getting rid of one cent coins...good.
Making dimes out of nickel for 30 years, switching dimes to steel and making bi-metal steel cored coins...NOT good.
I would rather deal with bothersome American cents and normal coin signals than less cents and schizophrenic coins.
LTimedigger
Active member
I saw one poster comment how MD'er will spend a lot of time and effort to find a silver dime thats worth a dollar. Well I think thats because we intuitively know that dime is REAL money and you've still made a 1000 percent return and it probably looks like it just left the mint even if it may be a 100 years old. We make pennies out of zinc because the dollar has been so devalued against the price of copper that it cost more to make a copper penny than what its worth. I will still dig a zinc penny in a park because dirt won't fry them as quickly as sand and I can still roll them and turn them in. Still have to discard some though. On a beach would notch where they come in not worth the effort. HH
still looking 52
Well-known member
I've heard rumors that we're going to stop minting pennies altogether here in the USA and just round up or down to the nearest nickel value when making purchases. That makes CENTS to me.
MarkCZ
Well-known member
still looking 52 said:
There has been several bills in fairly recent times that proposed eliminating the US one cent coin. Now in one bill the proposal was a round up to the next five cent for CASH purchases, but the items would
remain marked at the lower value. The price wouldn't round up if some form of electronic payment was used, meaning using cash everything would cost you more money.
The idea of that bill was two fold,
1- it would get the penny out of circulation
2- work towards a NO CASH society, NO CASH MONEY IN USE AT ALL!!!! only digits in an account.
But we know where that leads to, identity theft, and that leads to electronic chip implants. And MOST of all the current scanners in use today is already capable of reading such chips.
Implanted pet chips are becoming a big thing and they work so well. Society is being groomed to except the chip implants, they can find your pet ANYWHERE on the planet if it has a chip!
Guess what, they can do the same thing if your child has a chip??? every bit of information of EVERY transaction would be stored in the chip!!!!!! The government (certain branches of it) NEEDS
this information available to them whenever they need it, or want it. How wonderful that is to know with our so trusted government.
Mark
dfmike
Well-known member
I agree with REVIER that eliminating our Canadian pennies was a great thing. I'm still finding a lot of them but they are getting scarce as the years go by and hunters pluck them out.
I really like finding US coins around here because they are so easy to identify compared to our crap bi-metal nickels, dimes and quarters. He mentioned "schizophrenic" to describe our coins. It's a good word to describe how our detectors respond to our coins. I mean the visual ID is all over the place on these things. There are ways to know that we are dealing with a steel core coin but it's never full proof and I'm sure I've been missing a lot in thinking I would be digging junk. Ground conditions and rust only make matters worse.
This is an example of some recent coins I found and they were all dug in the same area. I picked the worse ones as an example but they represent about a third of my recent coin finds. None of these were in the ground for very long. If they look like this after only a few years, you can imagine what they will look like after 25 years underground. All that will remain is a rusty disk. No wonder I like finding silver so much.
I really like finding US coins around here because they are so easy to identify compared to our crap bi-metal nickels, dimes and quarters. He mentioned "schizophrenic" to describe our coins. It's a good word to describe how our detectors respond to our coins. I mean the visual ID is all over the place on these things. There are ways to know that we are dealing with a steel core coin but it's never full proof and I'm sure I've been missing a lot in thinking I would be digging junk. Ground conditions and rust only make matters worse.
This is an example of some recent coins I found and they were all dug in the same area. I picked the worse ones as an example but they represent about a third of my recent coin finds. None of these were in the ground for very long. If they look like this after only a few years, you can imagine what they will look like after 25 years underground. All that will remain is a rusty disk. No wonder I like finding silver so much.
dfmike
Well-known member
Dancer said:
They can't be used. Nobody will take them and even if I managed to sand them off, they would be completely defaced. I don't know if coin machines would take them as we don't have them in this province.You would think the nickel plating would offer some kind of protection but it doesn't. In air they will last a long time but once in the ground, they deteriorate at lightning speed.
MarkCZ
Well-known member
dfmike said:
Our zinc's seem to almost explode, the zinc core with only sprayed on copper jackets don't have any resistance to corrosion once they make it to the ground.
If you get pretty much new ones out of change to put into a penny collection you'ed do good to bath them first in distilled water and a few drops of Dawn to
get the finger prints off from them or they corrode in the coin flip holders.
Mark
Soak those in vinegar and most of the rust will dissolve, then tumble them.
Sven
Well-known member
dfmike said:
Scrape the rust off, they are usable in cash transaction purchases, rool um up for the bank, Coinstar machines and vending machines.
I generally scrape any coins like that and throw them all in a tumble with other clad coins for an hour.
I actually find lots of the Can. clad in the ground down to 5-6" that still do not have any rust, not a problem here in London Ontario-Canada as the soils you have.
dfmike
Well-known member
Sven said:
We don't have coin stars. The rust can't just be scraped by hand (not the ones shown here). Electric tools will do it but not without seriously damaging the coins even more. I will try John's idea of soaking them in vinegar and a then the tumbler (need to get one first).
Usually the clad I get that dates within the last 10 years looks better than this but I've been surprised by a few that were very recent and full of rust "bubbles". I suspect this particular area has been chemically fertilized at some point.
