can you identify these bottles?

[chatterx]

I have a friend who does metal detecting and collects old bottles he finds from time to time. The other day he asked me to take pictures of some things he has found to get a idea on what they are and possibly worth. If anyone knows... your input is greatly appreciated. Or if you could point me in the right direction... that would be appreciated as well, first bottle has a number 1691 on the bottom. Second bottle he said was made of crock?? third bottle has a deep bottom and a slight deformation on the neck. and the fourth bottles we cant figure out... tops seem to be made of some really soft metalor hardened rubber.

 

[mr miner/logger]

The 3rd bottle is a wine bottle. The identation on the bottom is called a kick-up. Sediment from the wine settles along side of the kick-up. The 4th bottle are ink wells. you slide the flap on top and stick the pen in the hole.

 

[Angela (Australia)]

The green glass bottle is referred to as "Black glass". The colouring can differ from a light green to very dark, almost black looking. Made in England, but use in other countries and filled with their own contents. These bottles can date anywhere from 1700's to late 1800's. Usually a champagne bottle with cork and wire. I've got quite a few of these with the original wire around the necks. They're not worth much, about $2.00 or $3.00 aussie dollars, as they're very common. About the pottery piece, not sure about it, but possibly an ink or ginger.
Angela

 

[mattockman]

I wouldn't call it black glass, but dark olive green is good, a wine bottle with a kick up. Black glass is much older with pontil marks on bottom, I have found tons of theses and we call them leavarights.(leave a right there...lol, but of course I kept one.

 

[mr miner/logger]

Yeah, I didn't want to be the one to say that the bottle was common and not worth anything. The clear bottle might be a mineral water bottle with the label missing. Also, as you say, leavaright bottle. I like that word.

 

[Angela (Australia)]

Hello Mattockman, yes, the black glass beer bottles were your older version, at first they tended to be heavy and squat, with long necks and thick doughnut-like blob tops. I have a few of these. The early beers were marked with an iron pontil. A lot of them carried embossed words, usually porter or ale. The word beer didn't appear on the bottles until around the 1870's. By then the shape of the bottles changed, were quite taller and thinner, and usually made from the the lightest green to darker versions, clear or amber glass. Manufacturers felt dark glass protected beer from the effects of ultraviolet raditation, which destroys the carbonation in the bottles. And early beers were stoppered with corks. So your later champagne and porters, with their varying degrees of colouration are sometimes looseley referred to as "black glass", denoting the earlier makes, though they are not. Sometimes the champagne bottles are also referred to loosely as "bum bottoms", well, here in Australia anyway, by some collectors. The blass glass squat bottles range in price from around $6.00 to $12.00, thereabouts. Thoses with embossing, can be much more valuable.

 

[Angela (Australia)]

Hello, thought I'd pop in a few photos of some of my older beer, wine, porter and champagne bottles. It's interesting to note the changes in colour and shape over time. Hope you like!
Angela

 

[Angela (Australia)]

Oops, sent two of one photo, so here's the other I meant to send!
Angela

 

[mattockman]

Yeah yeah, I like this bunch of bottles!!! do you have alot of people doing this type of hobby where you live? It is so hard to find anymore good dumps around here, due to lots of hobbists since the 60's till now...

 

[Angela (Australia)]

Hello Mattockman, yep, there are a few bottle hunters around, and they like to come to my town and have a look around, but I bank on the fact they don't know the area THAT well, and living here kinda gives me the upper hand. I know the gullies, hills, and old tram tracks fairly well, as I'm always out exploring and detecting. They want me to join their clubs, but I believe they just want info from me!
HH Angela

 

[mattockman]

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