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Can you detect a small gold chain in the disc mode?
- Thread starter tabdog
- Start date
I was told that the only part of a small gold chain you could detect is the clasp on the ends.
That chain it self is little pieces that are too small for the metal detector to detect.
That made sense to me until I found this gold chain with my Compadre. It has no clasp on
either end and it is tiny. My buddy at the local pawn shop verified that it is 10k gold. I found
it in wood chips. It was just below the surface. I don't think it would sink very far.
My Euro Sabre will detect it better than my Compadre.
Here's a video to demonstrate the Compadre.
http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/dcb1265/?action=view¤t=MOV05367.flv
HH,
That chain it self is little pieces that are too small for the metal detector to detect.
That made sense to me until I found this gold chain with my Compadre. It has no clasp on
either end and it is tiny. My buddy at the local pawn shop verified that it is 10k gold. I found
it in wood chips. It was just below the surface. I don't think it would sink very far.
My Euro Sabre will detect it better than my Compadre.
Here's a video to demonstrate the Compadre.
http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/dcb1265/?action=view¤t=MOV05367.flv
HH,
nick hunter
New member
Hi tabdog
Your video works fine and is a great demonstration of the capacities of your "speedy compadre". What is the approx depth at which both your detectors would react to the chain?
What might help finding it is the low Kt (10). Wonder what it would give with 18K gold, but this demonstration is very impressive !
Greetz from Belgium
HH
Nick the Belgian.
Your video works fine and is a great demonstration of the capacities of your "speedy compadre". What is the approx depth at which both your detectors would react to the chain?
What might help finding it is the low Kt (10). Wonder what it would give with 18K gold, but this demonstration is very impressive !
Greetz from Belgium
HH
Nick the Belgian.
BarberBill
New member
Interesting video. I've always had the impression that small gold chains were in a sometimes you can, sometimes you can't area of detection. By the way, I'm curious as to how you had the Compadre set. If you just turn them on and don't turn the knob up at all from that setting, they are in All Metal. Are you aware of that? Neat find.
Bill
Bill
BarberBill
New member
Here I am again. I just remembered several years ago when I still had my Compadre, I put a few small gold pickers in a small container to use as a test sample. The Compadre did as well or better on picking those up as the other detectors I tried, with the exception of my Eldorado which did noticableyt better in AM, full sensitivity, and a whole lot better than a green machine I used to own.
HH
Bill
HH
Bill
Hello Greetz,
You are right. the consistency of gold changes the more alloys are added.
I was told by a jeweler that almost all tiny gold chains are 10k gold. He
said that 18k and even 14k are not strong enough to withstand the strain.
Other metals are added to add strength. It makes production easier and
offers a profit margin for the manufacturer.
Nicer gold chains are heavier. I have found some but there is a lot more
mass in those. I think this one was marked 18k if I remember right.
The catch had been repaired at one time.
It was easy to locate. Much better depth than the small chain in the video.
HH,
You are right. the consistency of gold changes the more alloys are added.
I was told by a jeweler that almost all tiny gold chains are 10k gold. He
said that 18k and even 14k are not strong enough to withstand the strain.
Other metals are added to add strength. It makes production easier and
offers a profit margin for the manufacturer.
Nicer gold chains are heavier. I have found some but there is a lot more
mass in those. I think this one was marked 18k if I remember right.
The catch had been repaired at one time.
It was easy to locate. Much better depth than the small chain in the video.
HH,
Same here Bill,
My Euro Sabre does noticeably better than the Compadre at detecting gold.
The Euro is an Eldorado with an added switch.
I can not compare the Vaquero because I do not have a small coil for it yet.
I do know that my BH and my Green machine would not have detected the
chain. They would not detect a small ring I have that is much easier to get
a response on than the small chain. The BH had no all metal or pinpoint
mode and the Green one had that bar pin pointer that did not work for hunting.
The Compadre has only a VLF Motion Discriminator. There is no all metal
mode. Just the lowest setting, and that's what I use 90+% of the time.
As with any metal detector, minimum discrimination gives best depth and
sensitivity. It also gives the best quality of response. Discrimination inhibits
response characteristics.
I use discrimination mostly for IDing targets.
HH,
My Euro Sabre does noticeably better than the Compadre at detecting gold.
The Euro is an Eldorado with an added switch.
I can not compare the Vaquero because I do not have a small coil for it yet.
I do know that my BH and my Green machine would not have detected the
chain. They would not detect a small ring I have that is much easier to get
a response on than the small chain. The BH had no all metal or pinpoint
mode and the Green one had that bar pin pointer that did not work for hunting.
The Compadre has only a VLF Motion Discriminator. There is no all metal
mode. Just the lowest setting, and that's what I use 90+% of the time.
As with any metal detector, minimum discrimination gives best depth and
sensitivity. It also gives the best quality of response. Discrimination inhibits
response characteristics.
I use discrimination mostly for IDing targets.
HH,
BarberBill
New member
Tabdog,I think you're right on using the disc. for iding targets. Check with Tesoro and you'll find that in the turned on mode, the Compadre is in all metal. The reason I'm sure, I got an SSumax a year or so after I got my Compadre and going down the hall in our house, the compadre would beep on the nails in the floor where the SSumax wouldn't. I called Tesoro as I thought possibly something was wrong with the SSumax and the explanation was that the SS had a bit of discrimination built in, to reject small iron (except in AM pinpoint) whereas when the Compadre is turned on it starts in all metal, then goes into disc. as you turn the knob up. I sold the Compadre as I picked up a second SSumax for the wife and by then had bought the Eldorado. Thinking back, I kind of wish I'd kept it even though I've picked up several other (brands) of detectors as well. Without a doubt, the Compadre is the best bang for the buck on inexpensive detectors. I've never tried one with the 5.75 coil, but the older, 7" coil model works great, and, hate to say it, but I suspect the majority of my finds over the years with other, more upscale detectors would have been found just as well with a Compadre. BTW the first year I had the first SS and still owned the Compadre, my wife and I were detecting an old logging camp where she got a strong signal using the Compadre. I went over and helped her dig. We hit an old lead car battery at better than 15". Granted that's a lot more mass than coins or gold chains, but I was impressed. Both machines hit hard on it. Snowed here again today so no detecting for a while. I'll be glad when our spring finally settles in.
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BarberBill
New member
I've read a number of accounts/tests where small gold chains were invisible to the detectors and coils tested. Apparently even varies as to how the chain lays. Laid out, no signal, piled in a heap, maybe a signal. I guess another of those things that we have to live with in the THing world.
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