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I've searched a field pretty throughly in relic mode,gain at plus 3 toggle switch forward listening for high tones and digging most VDI numbers 25 and above. The field had an early 1800's mill in it and I've found an 1823 large cent,an 1836 half dime,an 1829 dime,a couple mercs,a couple indian head pennies and a 1773 spanish reel. I feel like there should be more there and I'm wondering what settings you would try or what strategy you would use to pick up something that has been missed. Have had the MXT since july and love it. Would the new bigger 14 in.coil (I'm using the stock coil now) get me much deeper? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
disc low and dig it all. anything that sound even remotely good.
 
If you've already covered front to back with a 50% overlap, you've probably detected everything there is up to 6 or 8 inches. You've also detected about 1/2 to 1/3 of anything deeper to about 12-14 inches.
With the slower sweep, the really deep stuff has a better chance to have an effect on the threshold. You might have passed some minor changes in theshold cause you didn't notice them. Slowing down makes it more evident when a minor change occurs. So even though you might have detected it (gone over it with the coil) you may not have heard it....
If you didn't overlap by at least half, your full coverage depth is decreased from 6 to 8 inches to something less. (Original concentric coil of course).
If you've done the right overlap and you're satisfied with the speed, then the next thing is to go side to side asssuming you've already gone front to back. Using the same overlap but going side to side increases the coverage at greater depth.
e.g. If you saw 50% of 8-12 inches the first pass, you will hit an additional 20-30% of the deeper stuff. Then if you want to run diagonals, you will pick up another 5-10%.
The larger coil will give you an edge on depth, and coverage, but if you don't overlap well, and use a slow technique, chances are still good that you're missing a lot. e.g. No overlap will give you about 70% coverage to 4 or 5 inches. Almost full coverage at the surface, but not much deeper. Missing more than 30% of stuff inside 5 inches is why many detectorists don't mind following someone that is somewhat careless of their seaching technique.
Disclaimer: All numbers are rough estimates, based on lots of reading and a couple years detecting. NOT measured at all.
Visualize a cone of detection as wide as your coil and as deep as the coil diameter plus 10 to 20 %. Now, imagine moving that cone horizontally across a grassy lawn. How deep are you getting full coverage with no overlap? ONLY AT THE SURFACE! Now visualize the overlap. etc...
Hope this hasn't confused anyone, or muddied the water for you. This is only an effort to help based on my understanding of how things work....!
Good luck!
P.S. even a 95% overlap will not give full coverage at maximum depth, but it won't miss much.... <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)"> Most of us don't have that level of patience either.
My analogy will give you roughly 80% coverage at maximum depth and full coverage to 10-12 inches or so if you criss/cross and diagonal with 50% overlap and a SLOW sweep with good headphones.
Comments and corrections welcomed!
 
An additional is to use one of the dd coils to isolate targets that might have been hidden or mis-reported because of masking.
Please keep us posted.
Royce
 
Thanks for the input guys.Went back over the field in different directions today and found two wheat pennies and two very old looking buttons.Had to use a hammer and screw driver to chip holes in the frozen ground. Didn't get out of the teens here in Pa. today.
 
Thanks for the input guys.Went back over the field in different directions today and found two wheat pennies and two very old looking buttons.Had to use a hammer and screw driver to chip holes in the frozen ground. Didn't get out of the teens here in Pa. today.
 
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Rich,
In an area like the one you are looking I would run relic mode gain high as possible disc at 0
trigger centered and a barely audible threshold. Cut your sweep speed in half and overlap your sweeps by atleast half the coil or more. If it made a beep I would dig it, yes your gonna dig some junk but finding coins that old I would not leave anything there if it beeped, I would not even bother with the id meter just dig all the beeps. If you dig all the beeps til there are none you have found most everything the stock coil will reach, And yes the 14 inch excellerator coil will get you more depth. White has a new 14 inch coil out also, I have not tried it but have and still do use the excellerator and it will blow the stock coil away in any test. Good luck and just another thought in that frozen ground, I purchased an old bayonett at the local flea market, thick bladed sharp on both sides, great digging tool, I would definately hit this area again once it thaws,damp ground will amplify the targets signal.
Ray
 
Do this and you'll get greater depth and more hits on targets that you already missed with discrimination at 25.
When I want to get the absolute highest gain I set it where I think I want to work then bob the coil up and down until it stabilizes. If it does not stabilize within 10 - 12 pumps it is too high, back off a little. If it stabilizes within a couple of pumps you can increase the gain.
If you go into saturation/overload over a small target it is also too high, back off a little. You can have it go into saturation over a pull tab 1 - 2" down. That is too touchy.
If you do have it too high it will not hurt the MXT but it does drain the battery faster. It is also hard on the ears.
Lee
 
The 3 cent nickle reads around an 8 or so. Deeper buttons, coins on edge and such could be missed. I hunt relic mode all the time. I love night hunting. I just hunt by sound. Use as much gain as conditions allow. Keep the Disc low. As for the three different size bars for how sure the detector is of the target, try to dig some of the partiale bars. I found some of them are coins deep. For that site hit it when it's good and wet.
 
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