I took my GT out in the yard yesterday with a squaretab, a squaretab that is olded over, and a nickel. I've always had a little problem telling squaretabs from nickels.. on several machines.
Anyway, I was going from tab to nickel to tab to nickel... trying to tell a difference. I finally realized that if I have it in disc and only swing about 3", not a wiggle but a slow 3" swing over the target, just taking the middle of the 10" Tornado coil over each target... I got a slight warble with both pulltabs and a smooth tone over the nickel. I I swing the whole coil over them, like a 2ft swing, I can't tell the difference and using the wiggle I can't tell a difference... but a short slow swing tells me the difference. The numbers and the pitch are close enough to make me dig. I am hoping I am on to something with this.
I still cannot tell differences using AM but I hope to learn to. I understand that some people can tell differences using AM... that there is a "breakpoint" where the AM tone goes from high to low or from low to high but I cannot hear a difference between ferrous and non... it all sounds the same to me.
I'd like to hear from some of you long time Sovereign users... how much info do you get from the audio. Can you tell what is under the coil from the audio alone, how accurate are you with it. How about some pointers, some ways to practice. I know I can just dig everything and see but this exercise with the squaretabs and nickel showed me something digging would not have taught me... since I already knew what the targets were and worked until I found a way to tell a difference.
It's funny, I go through the new detectors. I have an E-TRAC and a V3. I'm selling my SE and have a buyer. I will probably always keep my Tejon and maybe my T2... I had and sold an F75 and a Cortes.... but about once year I get drawn back to my SovereignGT and I always use it if I somehow get to the beach... but I think the Sov is probably one of the best detectors ever. I'm thinking that if I really took the time to learn the Sovereign audio, that it might tell me as much as the ET or the V3 tell me using all the audio and visual they offer... maybe even more. I cannot tell the nickel from the squaretab with the V3 or the ET... I mean, not well enough to not dig.
For example using the ET...on the nickel/squaretab test the audio is the same. The ferrous number is the same and they both hit 19 on the conductive BUT the nickel will, maybe, drop to 18 now and then while the squaretab may jump to 20 now and then... but in the ground.. they are close enough to have to dig to tell.
If the Sovereign will do what it did in the ground... what it did yesterday in the yard... it will tell me more than either the ET or the V3.
I am excited about telling an audio difference between a squaretab and a nickel !!!!! I guess I never really slowed down and tried to learn it before... relied too much on the meter I think. I'm thinking about removing the meter for a while to see what I can larn from audio alone. Do you think that would be a good idea?
So... please, talk to me about the Sovereign audio and what you can do with it and what sould my realistic expectations be if I really put some time into learning the SovereignGT audio.
Tell me about both disc and AM... and what you have learned to do with it.
I might add this: ... last year I had the chance to hunt an old property where the old farmhouse was being renovated. I pulled a couple of minnies out of the backyard but around the backdoor I couldn't get a good signal on any target. I had several machines with me. I tried the SE, the F75, and Tejon and couldn't gete a good hit but I thought there had to be something there. I got out the Sovereign and immediately dug a gold circlet with diamonds, a silver piece with "Spoiled" engraved in it, and two 1919 pennies... all from the smooth round audio.
I would love to see a Pro coil for the Sovereign. What other coils should I consider. I do not really prefer small coils, I have an 8" BBS... what about an SEF? Will audio response improve with a different coil. If it matters, most of the soil around here is high mineral with iron ore and hard red clay.
Julien
Anyway, I was going from tab to nickel to tab to nickel... trying to tell a difference. I finally realized that if I have it in disc and only swing about 3", not a wiggle but a slow 3" swing over the target, just taking the middle of the 10" Tornado coil over each target... I got a slight warble with both pulltabs and a smooth tone over the nickel. I I swing the whole coil over them, like a 2ft swing, I can't tell the difference and using the wiggle I can't tell a difference... but a short slow swing tells me the difference. The numbers and the pitch are close enough to make me dig. I am hoping I am on to something with this.
I still cannot tell differences using AM but I hope to learn to. I understand that some people can tell differences using AM... that there is a "breakpoint" where the AM tone goes from high to low or from low to high but I cannot hear a difference between ferrous and non... it all sounds the same to me.
I'd like to hear from some of you long time Sovereign users... how much info do you get from the audio. Can you tell what is under the coil from the audio alone, how accurate are you with it. How about some pointers, some ways to practice. I know I can just dig everything and see but this exercise with the squaretabs and nickel showed me something digging would not have taught me... since I already knew what the targets were and worked until I found a way to tell a difference.
It's funny, I go through the new detectors. I have an E-TRAC and a V3. I'm selling my SE and have a buyer. I will probably always keep my Tejon and maybe my T2... I had and sold an F75 and a Cortes.... but about once year I get drawn back to my SovereignGT and I always use it if I somehow get to the beach... but I think the Sov is probably one of the best detectors ever. I'm thinking that if I really took the time to learn the Sovereign audio, that it might tell me as much as the ET or the V3 tell me using all the audio and visual they offer... maybe even more. I cannot tell the nickel from the squaretab with the V3 or the ET... I mean, not well enough to not dig.
For example using the ET...on the nickel/squaretab test the audio is the same. The ferrous number is the same and they both hit 19 on the conductive BUT the nickel will, maybe, drop to 18 now and then while the squaretab may jump to 20 now and then... but in the ground.. they are close enough to have to dig to tell.
If the Sovereign will do what it did in the ground... what it did yesterday in the yard... it will tell me more than either the ET or the V3.
I am excited about telling an audio difference between a squaretab and a nickel !!!!! I guess I never really slowed down and tried to learn it before... relied too much on the meter I think. I'm thinking about removing the meter for a while to see what I can larn from audio alone. Do you think that would be a good idea?
So... please, talk to me about the Sovereign audio and what you can do with it and what sould my realistic expectations be if I really put some time into learning the SovereignGT audio.
Tell me about both disc and AM... and what you have learned to do with it.
I might add this: ... last year I had the chance to hunt an old property where the old farmhouse was being renovated. I pulled a couple of minnies out of the backyard but around the backdoor I couldn't get a good signal on any target. I had several machines with me. I tried the SE, the F75, and Tejon and couldn't gete a good hit but I thought there had to be something there. I got out the Sovereign and immediately dug a gold circlet with diamonds, a silver piece with "Spoiled" engraved in it, and two 1919 pennies... all from the smooth round audio.
I would love to see a Pro coil for the Sovereign. What other coils should I consider. I do not really prefer small coils, I have an 8" BBS... what about an SEF? Will audio response improve with a different coil. If it matters, most of the soil around here is high mineral with iron ore and hard red clay.
Julien
