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I've used nothing but Fishers for 20+ years. I've had good luck with them so it's easy to say if ain't broke don't fix it! If anyone has CZ experience, please share with me your thoughts. Also, what Tesoro model would be comparable to a CZ5? Thanks and let the fun begin
None they are all single frequency, the Lobo & Tejon are no slouch! I have a Compadre & Amigo II mainly for tot-lots & perfect for friends -n- kids alike , have a CZ5 & 3D also!
Toughest thing will be going from multi-tone to single tone. Unless you get a Golden, never used one, so can't compare it to a CZ.
Like any detector, you can learn the language of a Tesoro and it will tell you about the target. Most Tesoros are quicker/better in trash than a CZ, but not able to go as deep as a CZ in less trashy enviroments. Tejon might be as deep..
CZs are dual frequency, Tesoro is single frequency.
A larger variety of coils available for the Tesoros than the CZs.
That said, I like my CZ and I like my Tesoros, they each have their uses.
I had a CZ-5-deep! I did not like the weight-my arm actually COLLAPSED after using it over 4 hours straight. I did not like the discrimination preset levels, as they would not always give accurate ID's. I know I shouldn't have paid attention to the ID, but pulltabs at 8" and screwcaps at 10" were disconcerting to say the least. The only reason to use a Tesoro as a BACKUP is that some areas don't require extreme depth and the audio gives better info. I just didn't have the sites in my area to appreciate the depth of the CZ-in fact it worked against me in some cases. It was a great machine and found nickels like crazy.
I have used a CZ5, or 3d for years. I bought a Tesoro Compadre several years ago & have fallen in love with it. I use it the most, now. I will keep a CZ for looking for deep relics & on the beaches, but Compadre is what I use for parks, etc.
Like you I was a hardcore Fisher 1200 series user for at least 20 years and found lots of coins and jewelry with them. I loved the way the 1266 fit my arm....just felt like a natural extension of my arm.
I also have owned several CZ's over the years with my favorite being the CZ5 with the analog meter. Great detector for deep silver in fairly clean ground and an absolute coin killer with the 5 inch coil in an old park or other spots where trash isn't abundant.
As far as comparing the Tesoro machines to the CZ5, they are totally different animals. You will give up the meter and tones with a Tesoro, but the advantage is the Tesoro's are about half the weight of the Fisher. That means alot to me as I get older (I'm 56) and fatter....lol.
Comparing depth of the two brands, you will need to go to either the Vaquero or Tejon to get about the same depth. The Vaquero seems to be a little smoother operating in general than the Tejon, but the king of depth in the Tesoro line is the Tejon without a doubt... it will flat amaze you.
In testing my Vaquero and Tejon side by side, the Tejon is deeper by about 3 inches. At an old picnic grove site I have pounded hard with every detector I have owned, the Tejon pulled some targets even the CZ's or the Vaquero wouldn't see. Could I have missed those targets with all my other
detectors...maybe, but I think it was the detector that found the targets. With both the Vaquero and Tejon you need to use high quality headphones to hear those faint ticks that can be old coins at extreme depth. It depends on what you are hunting, coins, relics, etc. on the right detector for you, but I can tell you both the Vaquero and Tejon should keep up with the CZ5 with not much trouble in the depth department. My Tejon with stock coil will hit a bullet at 8 inches and sounds like a coke can on the surface.... it bangs on lead and brass hard. The higher frequency of the the Tesoro's, 14 khz for the Vaquero and 17 khz for the Tejon make them very sensitive to tiny deep targets. Both of these detectors work very well with a 5.75" coil in the trash and will get just about the same depth as the stock 9x8 coils. Tesoro detectors are well built, have a great warranty, and are just fun to use. I hope this answers some of your questions about Tesoro detectors. Good luck and happy hunting with whatever Tesoro you choose !
I'm not sure anyone *can* convince someone who's been using a metered Fisher that an unmetered Tesoro is "better" somehow. "Better" is a relative and subjective thing, and people will always believe what they want to believe, and always see what they want to see. My only stock answer after years of forum wars over "convincing" anyone of anything is -- there *is* no good answer. Just try one out of you're that interested. Other than that, the DeLeon and Cortes are metered. Try one of those and see how they stack up to your CZ-5 and what you expect out of detector in the real world.
My personal opinion on the matter is if you're mostly a coin hunter or trashy park hunter the Cz would please you more. If you're a "dig it all" kind of guy then a Tesoro is an excellent choice. I prefer target I'd for trashy areas and a beep and dig for everything else. Expect your nickels to go down. Nothing gets nickels like a cz. -Jay
I might be muddying the waters a bit here, but I think @metalmedic's question was "What Tesoro model would be comparable to a CZ5?". Frankly, I'm not sure there's a decent answer to this question, since @metalmedic didn't ask *in what respect* to a CZ5 a Tesoro model could compare (weight? balance? pinpointing ability? discrimination? ease of use? target separation in trash? stock coils?). Really, the only thing that can realistically compare to a CZ5 would be an earlier version of the same CZ5 because a Fisher is a Fisher and a Tesoro is a Tesoro. And besides even from the get-go, the old(er) CZ5 meters were old-timey analog; Tesoro's are digital "blocks" that by today's standards could be considered primitive. Huge difference between analog and digital right there just on form and function alone especially in very cold weather, which tends to turn digital readouts into molasses.
However, if the question was framed differently, like "Here are the things my CZ5 does well that I love, and here are the things about my CZ5 that annoy me; is there a Tesoro detector that will make me happier?" -- then we'd have a more helpful discussion, methinks.
I don't think there is a real match in the Tesoro line up for a CZ. I've got a CZ20 and a CZ6a, and from Tesoro a Sand Shark, Tejon, Cibola and Compadre. I use them all based on where and what I'm hunting and what I'm feeling like. I sometimes just grab the Compadre because it is so light. All the Tesoro detectors are easier to swing and all are lighter than the CZ's except the Sand Shark; but the Sand Shark balances so well that it is very easy to swing, even out of the water.
In my opinion, CZ needs to be run in autotune or with disc 0 and listen to it all. Running disc 1 or higher and it is a champion target masker (meaning if a discriminated target like iron is near a good target, you will not see the good target).
The tesoro VLF detectors can and do mask when running discrimination, but not near what I can observe with a CZ; and I love my two CZ's ... for beach work and more open, not too trashy parks. The CZ 5 inch coil is not a depth hound, the Tejon with the 5.75 inch coil is much deeper and works trashy areas much better.
Different tools for different situations. I prefer the Tejon for most park and tot lot situations. A CZ will come along with me for most beach trips.
Not going to try to convince you swing a Tesoro rather than a CZ; but hope to get you thinking that having a Tesoro available to use where it better fits the task at hand may be worthwhile.
Over the dirt, the Tejon continues to be my best jewelry finder. Could be because I tend to dig more foil with it too, but the jewelry finds make a pretty good upside to clearing piles of trash away.
Cheers,
tvr
I must say...some very valuable, points/suggestions here. Lets suppose that the analog meter is a non-issue for me, what model Tesoro would give decent results? What are the capabilities of the older Tesoros vs., say the Vaquero or Cortes. Would there be any advantage to looking at older model Tesoro as is the case with the 15 year old CZ'z?
I think I'm down to a Tejon or Outlaw to complement my CZ's. Is the Tejon too similar to the CZ5? Will an outlaw give enough depth to not feel that I'm missing targets?
