Critterhunter
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I screened this video and didn't see any ads, so I'd assume it's OK to post? Hope this is the proper forum for it too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djBn8WlmDuw
That coil was for a gold unit but Is anybody aware of any fake coils being made for the FBS/BBS units, such as say clones of the Coil Tek WOT coil? I had somebody ask me that a few days back and I told him I never heard of such a thing, and since he didn't have anything to offer link wise I assumed he was just being cautious in his purchase of a WOT. He contacted Coiltek with the serial # of the one he was buying used and they confirmed it was real.
Only thing I wonder is can't they just copy the serial # off one and start knocking off a bunch with that? 4 or 5 real coils they gleam the serial # off of and then it would seem calling it in wouldn't tip anybody off until enough phone calls or emails show up asking about the same serial #?
While we are on the topic, has anybody seen any other fake coils for certain brand machines, or fake machines for that matter? I've caught whispers of that in the past but never saw any hard proof on it. Thought I heard the T2 was being cloned but never saw any info on that.
By the way, I think they targeted that above coil due to it's price, so I'm wondering if that might mean the more expensive the detector or coil the more prone it is to have clones being made of it. You might think a clone is a handy way to get a cheaper price but detectors are very delicate things. Using sub-standard parts with higher noise generation will ruin your ability to raise sensitivity for one thing and get good depth.
I have seen some clones of expensive rechargeable battery chargers (computerized) that people have testing and found were very good, but I wouldn't want to take a chance with a detector or even a coil (the proper alignment of the windings is critical for one thing to get best performance out of it). With the chargers, they would crack the software and then once done it's a simple matter of duplicating the hardware. Seems they are getting very good at that, because I've read threads in my other hobby of RC electric planes were they used lab test equipment to check the charging parameters of certain clone chargers and they were just as good as the original. Say a $20 charger clone of a $100+ one.
With brushless motors, read where they would get an order from the US to run off a name brand motor, and then once the order was filled they'd leave the equipment in place and start flooding the market with clones. A $60 motor for $12 to $20. Usually they wouldn't put any name on them, but you knew what they were by the unique look many brushless motors often have in their color and physical casing dimensions. Some of these were total junk as they would then go to using less expensive bearings or wire, weaker magnets, and etc to make them, and would smoke if you used the maximum prop size the real motor could handle, while others clone runs would stick with the real parts and build identical ones for a fraction of the price.
Not much to a brushless motor. A few magnets, some wire windings, and a few bearings.
But with detectors, far more things involved to get optimal performance out of them.
Same deal with coils- The alignment of the windings and proper nulling of the coil is critical for best performance. Then there's the shielding and such where if it ain't done right the coil is either very unstable or gets lousy depth. I wouldn't want to risk using a detector or a coil not knowing what it might be costing me in performance, not to mention at the risk to the detector. Any shabby solder work done at the plug or coil end of the cable where the wrong wires short together and you could fry the detector.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djBn8WlmDuw
That coil was for a gold unit but Is anybody aware of any fake coils being made for the FBS/BBS units, such as say clones of the Coil Tek WOT coil? I had somebody ask me that a few days back and I told him I never heard of such a thing, and since he didn't have anything to offer link wise I assumed he was just being cautious in his purchase of a WOT. He contacted Coiltek with the serial # of the one he was buying used and they confirmed it was real.
Only thing I wonder is can't they just copy the serial # off one and start knocking off a bunch with that? 4 or 5 real coils they gleam the serial # off of and then it would seem calling it in wouldn't tip anybody off until enough phone calls or emails show up asking about the same serial #?
While we are on the topic, has anybody seen any other fake coils for certain brand machines, or fake machines for that matter? I've caught whispers of that in the past but never saw any hard proof on it. Thought I heard the T2 was being cloned but never saw any info on that.
By the way, I think they targeted that above coil due to it's price, so I'm wondering if that might mean the more expensive the detector or coil the more prone it is to have clones being made of it. You might think a clone is a handy way to get a cheaper price but detectors are very delicate things. Using sub-standard parts with higher noise generation will ruin your ability to raise sensitivity for one thing and get good depth.
I have seen some clones of expensive rechargeable battery chargers (computerized) that people have testing and found were very good, but I wouldn't want to take a chance with a detector or even a coil (the proper alignment of the windings is critical for one thing to get best performance out of it). With the chargers, they would crack the software and then once done it's a simple matter of duplicating the hardware. Seems they are getting very good at that, because I've read threads in my other hobby of RC electric planes were they used lab test equipment to check the charging parameters of certain clone chargers and they were just as good as the original. Say a $20 charger clone of a $100+ one.
With brushless motors, read where they would get an order from the US to run off a name brand motor, and then once the order was filled they'd leave the equipment in place and start flooding the market with clones. A $60 motor for $12 to $20. Usually they wouldn't put any name on them, but you knew what they were by the unique look many brushless motors often have in their color and physical casing dimensions. Some of these were total junk as they would then go to using less expensive bearings or wire, weaker magnets, and etc to make them, and would smoke if you used the maximum prop size the real motor could handle, while others clone runs would stick with the real parts and build identical ones for a fraction of the price.
Not much to a brushless motor. A few magnets, some wire windings, and a few bearings.
But with detectors, far more things involved to get optimal performance out of them.
Same deal with coils- The alignment of the windings and proper nulling of the coil is critical for best performance. Then there's the shielding and such where if it ain't done right the coil is either very unstable or gets lousy depth. I wouldn't want to risk using a detector or a coil not knowing what it might be costing me in performance, not to mention at the risk to the detector. Any shabby solder work done at the plug or coil end of the cable where the wrong wires short together and you could fry the detector.