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Been trying the F-75 out ( LONG WINDED)

Rick(ND)

Well-known member
Grounds been thawing out so been able to take the F-75 out and giving it a try instead of just air test.
Like all detectors this one is only as good as the person using it and understanding it, so what I am saying is you have to get to understand it to do good with it. Those that like to take the detector out for a hour and feels they should be popping out deep silver and no trash will probably not like it. Those that like to spend the time and get to know it and dig some trash as it is a iffy signal just to see what it is telling them may love it. This is what I have notice now in my 4 hours with it.
Like the T-2 it is light weight and well balanced so swinging it for a long period of time is no problem. This detector also is easy to set up to use, but see when using the notch it does take a little while longer, but sure it will be easier once I use it more. Seem to dig a lot of rusty bottle caps even in the bottle cap mode and using the 4H mode or the DP as I am still in the learning stage and these do sound good for a beginner with this detector. I will say I am starting to see these bottle caps will vary the ID numbers more than 2 or 3 numbers and by coming at it from more than one way I am seeing some different tones. I am sure it will get better from experience with it. I also notice it seems to love rusty can pieces as they too sound good, but like with the bottle caps they too the number vary more than a few numbers. The beaver tails off the older round pull tabs do read like nickles too, but on most detector they do too other than my Sovereigns I can tell the difference and I am sure after a while I probably will with the F-75 too as i am still in the learning mode myself. Some of these beaver tails were over 6 inches deep too, so it is impressive for depth on a small target.
I use a Uniprobe built into the headphones as I found out you need a good probe to find some of the very small targets with the T-2 and knew I would need it for the F-75 too even though it pinpoints real nice.I use this probe on all my target just to see how the pinpoint would work, but for the depth of the targets to see how good the depth meter works. Only a couple of targets i didn't get pinpointed right on the first time. The depth was very good on the coin size targets.
I took it to a ballfields that we have hit many times over the last 30 years that don't get used too much anymore.I set the F-75 up in the default mode to begin with with the sensitivity at 60 and had the pull tabs notched out, so I was accepting nickles, zinc Penny's and higher to see how it would work. I was hearing a bit of chatter from the ground as I was swinging the coil, but that was OK as I knew it was working and could see these were not repeatable signals. This is one thing I do see is the good targets are repeatable signals, not ones that only hit one way or once in a while. Some I see will dig as soon as a detector give out a squeak and then complain there is no target. I got a few signals that were repeatable, but meter and some times the tones would bounce around a bit, when dug were some bottle caps and some other trash as i had to see what the detector was telling me. Got a nice lock on at 7 inches and very repeatable and showed in the penny dime area and only a number or 2 bounce, so I dug out about a 5 inch deep plug after i pinpointed and put in my Uniprobe and the target was right in the very center of the hole and still in there. It was a 1967 penny and it was about 7 inches down, so the depth meter was right on and i seen where this target locked on better than the trash signal with very little difference in the VID numbers, maybe a number or 2. Worked around a bit more and got a few more rusty bottle caps and switch to the bottle cap mode and set my tones to 4H and still dug many iffy signals that were trash like I figured it would be. Looking for some deeper signals and found a few that were pieces of old tin cans that did sound good, but like I said the number would vary as much as 10 numbers. Picked up a few new pennies and new dimes too with a 1980 that was a good 6 inches deep too and all the ID would lock on even swinging the coil faster than normal. Worked around a bit and got a deeper signal that repeated real well that was 6 inches deep, Back and forth across the target it varied by a number or 2 like a good target, come at it from a different angle and it too repeated well, but the numbers going one way seem to vary, dug a plug and pulled out a 1973 penny at around 6 inches deep. I went back in with the probe and another signal only to find a 1 1/2 inch nail had been sitting right next to the penny, so it sees like this detector can see a good target with a nail sitting about 3/4 inch away. Went a little further where i knew it had been trashy before because of nails and was surprised as the F-75 ran real quiet, more so than it had been before and wonder if that was because of all the nail. I did get a good repeatable signal that read 29-31 with a good tone, but one way the tone would change from a hight pitch to a med at the end of my swing, only the one way as I turned and it was no there. I seen it showed at 7 inches too so I dug out a 5 inch plug again to see if the the depth meter was right on. When I went in with the probe it too showed center of the hole and down a little deeper, when dug out it was a 192? buffalo nickle and it too had a little nail in with it.
What I have learned was that this detector seems to be very good and like with any you will have to get to know it to do well with it, you can do OK right out of the box and the more you use it and get to know it the better I am sure it is going to get. Today I thought a couple were good targets and they were not, but those I figured were bad and dug any way were bad targets. Getting better on the bottle caps too as i see the number and sometimes the tones vary too much.

Just thought I would let some know what to expect when they get their F75 and also to see if anyone else is seeing what I am seeing too. I have alot to learn too and this is only the first step for me with the F-75.

Rick
 
Rick thanks for the report, I was just wondering what the confidence meter read on your bad targets that you thought were good such as the rusty iron cans? I'm getting an F75 next week and will soon put it through its paces relic hunting when the ground fully thaws.:bouncy:

Rich
 
Seems like every time a new detector comes out it always the best thing since cheese whiz. For about a month.

The buzz on the t-2 and now the f-75 appears a bit more long lived. I'm looking forward to your reports as you get more time on this machine.

Thanks Rick

Chris
 
Hi Rick,

I made my maiden hunt yesterday for a few hours in So MN. The results
were much like yours.......However when using the "Fast Grab" G B it would not GB, no # given. Pumping the many times. The default is 60 and will not GB (Fast Grab GB) for my soil which is s below "40" per
the manual. I must manual GB !...it's running very positive otherwise.

This detector is fantastic in every way. It is very very flexible
and even hotter :clapping:in the ground.

Came home and reread "Ground Balancing" and it made sense then. Not the
F75 in error only myself.:laugh:
 
I'm not Rick but have used a T2... :) The T2 is one of the better machines I've bought in a few years. It can pick up some ridiculously small items. If I were going into a field and wanted to pick it clean I would grab the T2. The T2 is excellent in iron. The extreme sensitivity to small items can be bothersome in some places because the T2 can sound like two machine guns at times. I own an Explorer too. I would give the ID at depth to the Explorer. Picking through iron would be a toss up depending on how heavy the iron is. Both are excellent in iron. I have not used a F75. But, if they've tweaked it to the better in my area I'd highly recommend it. The other really nice thing about the T2/F75 is the best balanced machine I've ever used.

-Bill
 
I think it is too soon to give a very accurate assessment, but so far (in my experience) the F75 is the real deal. For the 1st time in a few years when I get ready to reach for a detector, for the time being I'm picking the F75 without any reservations. It is getting more detecting time than my fairly new SE.

That said, I still use the SE a lot. I'm still wringing it through using a new 14" Excelerator coil and trying determine what advantages that brings to the table.

I'm glad I am able to have both of these machines. I love the speed and lightness of the F75. I love the way it locks on to a good target and hangs very tight to the TID numbers. I like the way it "bangs" onto a deep target. I love the user interface.

I'm also glad to have something as dependable and familiar as the Explorer. The Smartscreen and it's ability to display the iron content has been something that has added to my confidence of knowing what I will dig with the SE. It has always had the depth.

I will say that the F75 spoils you in a hurry with the lightness and balance. I used it yesterday for an hour or so and then reached for the SE with an 8" coil. There was a very noticeable difference. Before I always thought the EX/SE was light with the 8" coil.

I don't know if I can say that the F75 will be preferred over the SE, but I do think that if you have a choice that your mood on a particular day might cause you to choose one over the other, just like you might choose to use one coil over another.

But to say that the F75 is going to be a major player at this point, would be an understatement. I will say it is about as good as it gets, without saying it is the best there is. Of course, I could say that about the SE too. I'm not struggling too hard to determine which is the best since I have both so my opinion is somewhat muted. And this is just my opinion. Others my see things completely different. I can say pretty safely though that they are both great detectors.
 
Bill W, I very much agree with your post and will only add these few comments.

I like my SE and have the F75 on order and expect it by Monday or Tuesday. The SE is a great detector but I believe I need a single frequency machine such as the F75 or T2 that will really reach down there. I want a detector to be as hot as can be and let me throttle it back if I need to but at least give me the options to do that.

It appears to me that the SE is faster than the EX2 and I like the new features but multiple frequency seems to carry some baggage when it come to recovery speed and trying to process 28 frequencies as I understand the way it is done.

It would be great to be able to switch between multiple frequency and single with one detector such as the SE or F75 but unless we get that then I guess I will have one of each.
 
quote:- [I would give the ID at depth to the Explorer. Picking through iron would be a toss up depending on how heavy the iron is. Both are excellent in iron.]

Within the depth capabilities of the F75, I personally think the Fisher has a better ID performance.

Regarding depth, you can't realistically compare depths,
because the Explorer 10.5" head is 'larger' than the '10.5" x 6"' F75.

In heavily mineralised soil (as depicted by the F75's Fe meter!), the Explorer will go 'dumb' compared to the F75.

The Explorer's 'low fundamental' enables it to detect LARGER or THICKER items, but the F75 will equal the Exp on targets of 1.25" diameter or less, within the first 12 inches.

Hey!...I forgot to mention the $ for $ performance pay-out!

Oops!....Another thing...weight....No contest.

On wet sand....Explorer EVERY time.

p.s. I would like to test the SE, Bill.



What do you think Bill, fair comments?...........MattR.UK.
 
At least with my T2 vs. my Explorer in my ground the Explorer had better ID at depth. The F75 might give the machine enough of a 'power' boost to change that. I am talking about the T2 specifically. I don't have a 6 inch coil for my Explorer to make it 'fair' in the inch for inch comparison.

I agree about when the Fe meter went up the T2 lost less depth compared to the Explorer. I have a old school site that the Explorer chirps and pop a lot even if you run the machine in semi-auto. The T2 doesn't miss a beat and no doubt gets better depth at this site. I agree the T2/F75 will definitely pick up A LOT smaller items that the Explorer wouldn't even give a peep on. But, depending on the type of hunting or site you are doing the extreme sensitivity to small objects can be a pain. I know it sounds odd... :)

Price is another good point... but the lack of coils can really put some people off that don't own more than one machine like you or I. I did mention about the weight too.

I really think the T2/F75 is one of the best machines to come out in a long time. Comparisons with the Explorer are only because in my opinion it has set a pretty good 'benchmark' to judge other machines by. I've also owned one pretty much since they came out. That's not to say that the Explorer is the best at everything only that it's probably the best all around machine out.

-Bill
 
I agree Cody. The Explorer's recovery speed leaves a lot to be desired. That it why I gave said it was a toss up between the two in iron. I probably should have said it depends on the site you're going to hunt. The Explorer, IMHO, has the better ID at depth but the recovery speed of the T2/F75 is definitely going to allow it to see targets that the Explorer misses. If I were going to pick a place clean I'd grab the T2/F75 and start digging.

-Bill
 
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