Newbie with an Ace 250, maybe 40 hours of hunting so far, mostly San Diego beaches. Haven't found a ring yet, I know it will happen, but I want to maximize my chances. Should I wait for "minus tides" to maximize my exposure to the area where folks have been swimming? Look for holes and channels in the sand at extreme low tides? Also, I've got the standard 6x9 coil and wonder if I should upgrade to the 9x12 to increase my search footprint, considering beaches are big and rings are small. Thanks for any input. - ziphius
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Beach Ring Zones
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John 'n' W.Va
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First go to where the crowds hang out. You will MD better in dry sand. I have found most of my rings and other jewelry in the dry sand. Yes, the bigger coil is better, but you will do find with the stock coil. Find enough treasure to warrant the purchase of the larger coil. I think that would be wise. Minis tides are a plus for wet sand. Go anytime the sand has been removed and there are cuts in it. I have had trouble with the big holes. I couldn't touch the bottoms and retrieving targets was tough. Of course a true water MD'er would be better. One slip and the Ace is fried.
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Thanks for the input. I'm curious to know if you find most rings in dry sand because you search effort is concentrated in dry sand vs wet sand? Or do the dynamics of beach crowd behavior result in people taking their rings off their fingers *before* they enter the water? The limited amount of conventional wisdom I've heard is that most people lose rings while in the water. I see merit in both arguments.
As a side note, my background is in wildlife surveys and I design search patterns/transect grids to minimize biases in locating marine life. This definitely has some theoretical applications in MD'ing. - ziphius
As a side note, my background is in wildlife surveys and I design search patterns/transect grids to minimize biases in locating marine life. This definitely has some theoretical applications in MD'ing. - ziphius
John 'n' W.Va
Active member
Your logic is sound. The factor that flaws your logic is you need a water detector.
Last year I lived near Daytona Beach when I got my Ace 250. At best I can only pick up quarters 6" in wet sand. I have picked up quarters at 12" in dry sand with very little minerals in it. So I am limited in wet sand. My finds were much more in dry sand, rings, bracelets, coins and trash. I also saw another man find a large gold chain with a gold ring on it in dry sand. When you are MDing the beach where do you get the most targets? Mine was in the dry sand. Using your logic I hunted the wet sand more hoping to find more rings. It just didn't happen. One reason was I hunted wet sand more in the winter time. There are less people and less targets all around. The winter time the beach loses sand and you can get the deeper treasures in the cuts and holes. It seemed like the holes where all too deep. You also have to get out into the deeper water to get that treasure. There is a trough just off the beach that holds the treasures. Couldn't do it with the Ace.
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Last year I lived near Daytona Beach when I got my Ace 250. At best I can only pick up quarters 6" in wet sand. I have picked up quarters at 12" in dry sand with very little minerals in it. So I am limited in wet sand. My finds were much more in dry sand, rings, bracelets, coins and trash. I also saw another man find a large gold chain with a gold ring on it in dry sand. When you are MDing the beach where do you get the most targets? Mine was in the dry sand. Using your logic I hunted the wet sand more hoping to find more rings. It just didn't happen. One reason was I hunted wet sand more in the winter time. There are less people and less targets all around. The winter time the beach loses sand and you can get the deeper treasures in the cuts and holes. It seemed like the holes where all too deep. You also have to get out into the deeper water to get that treasure. There is a trough just off the beach that holds the treasures. Couldn't do it with the Ace.
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draaiorgel
New member
Hi ziphius,
First let us welcome you to this great forum, read as many back posts as possible and you will learn a lot about your 250 Ace. It's not the best for damp sand, although many of the guys here can do it.
But, it does require an awful lot of practice and we're far too impatient for that.
We both agree completely with John 'n Va, we've had our Aces for a year now and all our rings & jewelry were in the dry sand using the stock coil. I think our total rings for the year stands at around 27
gold 50% 'n' silver 50%.
Over here the customary thing for the beach goers is to put valuables in their shoes or under a cover of some sort, their problem is when in a hurry to leave they forget and it slips quietly under the surface.
The important thing is to relax and enjoy your Ace and the goodies will come eventually.
First let us welcome you to this great forum, read as many back posts as possible and you will learn a lot about your 250 Ace. It's not the best for damp sand, although many of the guys here can do it.
But, it does require an awful lot of practice and we're far too impatient for that.
We both agree completely with John 'n Va, we've had our Aces for a year now and all our rings & jewelry were in the dry sand using the stock coil. I think our total rings for the year stands at around 27
gold 50% 'n' silver 50%.
Over here the customary thing for the beach goers is to put valuables in their shoes or under a cover of some sort, their problem is when in a hurry to leave they forget and it slips quietly under the surface.
The important thing is to relax and enjoy your Ace and the goodies will come eventually.
Uncle Willy
New member
Low tides and after storms or rough seas when a lot of sand gets washed off the beach are good times. Observe where the most people congregate in the water at high tide then hit that area at low tide. After being in the water for a spell fingers shrink and rings fall off.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
Yeah most rings are lost in the water. Water is one of the slickest lubricants known plus fingers prune up and shrink after so long in the water.
Bill
Bill
John, I find very few targets in wet sand, though I put in considerable effort. A few postings here, including yours, indicate that the 250 might not be the best for wet sand/water, so I think I'll focus on the dry stuff and be patient until that first ring rattles around in my scoop. - ziphius