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beach hunter 300
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I like mine alot. I run it almost all the time in all metal and use the lights to ID iron. Any continuous flash of red and I move on. You can swing it moderately fast, pin points great, and the depth is very good. It compares very favoralbly with my Excal 1000...except its a lot easier to swing and balanced much better on the aftermarket shaft I bought for it ( I also use an after market shaft for the Excal ).
I don't think you can go wrong picking one up.
Also...I am hunting the beaches of NJ with it, and the wet salt sand and suds do not cause it any problems. Some beaches I cannot run it a max sensitivity but I have never had a problem ground balancing or running it.
JC
I don't think you can go wrong picking one up.
Also...I am hunting the beaches of NJ with it, and the wet salt sand and suds do not cause it any problems. Some beaches I cannot run it a max sensitivity but I have never had a problem ground balancing or running it.
JC
glasartisan
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Hi Jerry,
I had 2 last summer. 2nd was the replacement to the first BH300.First one had no depth at all,bad coil.Got a replacement and almost the same thing, depth was not that much better 6-7 inches on a quarter buried in sand and machine could not even pick it up. My hunting partners were using cz-20 and x-cal.They would call me over when they got a deep buried target out in the water and I would then run my 300 over it in all metal and descrim and not a peep out of it and I know the machine was well ground balanced.That was it for the 300. A 2nd bad coil I highly doubt it..Keep in mind thats a 12 inch coil on the 300. My buddies have 10 inch coils that get awesome depth and were killing me in the depth department.Now it could be true that the guys using the 300 in salt water are getting better depth because of the conductivity of the salt than the guys that use them in fresh water like myself.I now use CZ-21, X-Cal 2 and a Headhunter. Great machines.Good luck, Steve
I had 2 last summer. 2nd was the replacement to the first BH300.First one had no depth at all,bad coil.Got a replacement and almost the same thing, depth was not that much better 6-7 inches on a quarter buried in sand and machine could not even pick it up. My hunting partners were using cz-20 and x-cal.They would call me over when they got a deep buried target out in the water and I would then run my 300 over it in all metal and descrim and not a peep out of it and I know the machine was well ground balanced.That was it for the 300. A 2nd bad coil I highly doubt it..Keep in mind thats a 12 inch coil on the 300. My buddies have 10 inch coils that get awesome depth and were killing me in the depth department.Now it could be true that the guys using the 300 in salt water are getting better depth because of the conductivity of the salt than the guys that use them in fresh water like myself.I now use CZ-21, X-Cal 2 and a Headhunter. Great machines.Good luck, Steve
Jerry:
Although I can't really speak to the experiences of others, here's my take on the BHID 300.
I had been using my 1280X for a few years and thought it was time for something new. Like many others who read the posts here, I was leaning toward getting an Excal. Obviously an excellent machine but something told me it wasn't what I wanted. Was leaning even harder toward the White's DF P. I., but even though my 1280X had some discrimination on it, the P. I. appeared to be the same old thing, i.e. dig most everything. Again, great machine but just not for me.
What sort of turned my head was reading the excellent material at the Golden Olde web site and some messages from forum members. It became apparent to me that there were certain times when the beach hunting would be at its best and those time windows were very short and only came occasionally. Sometimes only hours long. Couldn't imagine using a machine that required a slow sweep speed or one that required digging most everything. You can't waste a single second.
At this time I do have some Fisher units ( 1280X, F-75), so the CZ-21 was a possibility. After checking into the BHID 300, I began to see that not only was it a capable unit but something that would be fun to use. Last time I checked, that was part of the hobby. Price new was considerably less than some of the other highly touted units, so that didn't hurt. I must admit that I was intrigued by the possibilities of the BHID 300.
The combination of the dual freq. and the 12" coil was just the start. Using All Metal with the Lights is great, especially using the Gobble - Gobble supertune. For the most part if you see RED, forget it.
Control unit mounted on my hip very comfortably with lights visible and control knobs easily accessible. Large 12' coil sort of glided effortlessly on the wet sand which made the operation less tiring and allowed me to scrub the surface. Initially, I used my 6" X 11" sandscoop but later went to my shovel with the 12' long blade on the wet sand. The handle on the shovel is another 6" or 8" long, so the whole thing is 18" or 20" long. There were a number of targets that I tried to dig with the scoop that I never got down to. At times, while using the shovel, I was in the hole almost to the top of the handle. All targets were recovered with the shovel.
The above was during a week at Galveston after "IKE" and during the annual minus tides. BHID was very stable and used the AM supertune all the time. I'll be using the BHID 300 in fresh water shortly and I'm looking forward to recovering some great stuff.
Good luck with the unit you decide on. HH
Ron
Although I can't really speak to the experiences of others, here's my take on the BHID 300.
I had been using my 1280X for a few years and thought it was time for something new. Like many others who read the posts here, I was leaning toward getting an Excal. Obviously an excellent machine but something told me it wasn't what I wanted. Was leaning even harder toward the White's DF P. I., but even though my 1280X had some discrimination on it, the P. I. appeared to be the same old thing, i.e. dig most everything. Again, great machine but just not for me.
What sort of turned my head was reading the excellent material at the Golden Olde web site and some messages from forum members. It became apparent to me that there were certain times when the beach hunting would be at its best and those time windows were very short and only came occasionally. Sometimes only hours long. Couldn't imagine using a machine that required a slow sweep speed or one that required digging most everything. You can't waste a single second.
At this time I do have some Fisher units ( 1280X, F-75), so the CZ-21 was a possibility. After checking into the BHID 300, I began to see that not only was it a capable unit but something that would be fun to use. Last time I checked, that was part of the hobby. Price new was considerably less than some of the other highly touted units, so that didn't hurt. I must admit that I was intrigued by the possibilities of the BHID 300.
The combination of the dual freq. and the 12" coil was just the start. Using All Metal with the Lights is great, especially using the Gobble - Gobble supertune. For the most part if you see RED, forget it.
Control unit mounted on my hip very comfortably with lights visible and control knobs easily accessible. Large 12' coil sort of glided effortlessly on the wet sand which made the operation less tiring and allowed me to scrub the surface. Initially, I used my 6" X 11" sandscoop but later went to my shovel with the 12' long blade on the wet sand. The handle on the shovel is another 6" or 8" long, so the whole thing is 18" or 20" long. There were a number of targets that I tried to dig with the scoop that I never got down to. At times, while using the shovel, I was in the hole almost to the top of the handle. All targets were recovered with the shovel.
The above was during a week at Galveston after "IKE" and during the annual minus tides. BHID was very stable and used the AM supertune all the time. I'll be using the BHID 300 in fresh water shortly and I'm looking forward to recovering some great stuff.
Good luck with the unit you decide on. HH
Ron
thank you so much for your information . I have been out of Thunting for about 10 years now. But have the fever again. the water detector I was using back then was the fisher 1280 good machine with depth around 6 inches on mans ring. I two am on the east coast in Virginia. thanks again for info.................Jerrytherover said:I like mine alot. I run it almost all the time in all metal and use the lights to ID iron. Any continuous flash of red and I move on. You can swing it moderately fast, pin points great, and the depth is very good. It compares very favoralbly with my Excal 1000...except its a lot easier to swing and balanced much better on the aftermarket shaft I bought for it ( I also use an after market shaft for the Excal ).
I don't think you can go wrong picking one up.
Also...I am hunting the beaches of NJ with it, and the wet salt sand and suds do not cause it any problems. Some beaches I cannot run it a max sensitivity but I have never had a problem ground balancing or running it.
JC
Jackalope said:Jerry:
Although I can't really speak to the experiences of others, here's my take on the BHID 300.
I had been using my 1280X for a few years and thought it was time for something new. Like many others who read the posts here, I was leaning toward getting an Excal. Obviously an excellent machine but something told me it wasn't what I wanted. Was leaning even harder toward the White's DF P. I., but even though my 1280X had some discrimination on it, the P. I. appeared to be the same old thing, i.e. dig most everything. Again, great machine but just not for me.
What sort of turned my head was reading the excellent material at the Golden Olde web site and some messages from forum members. It became apparent to me that there were certain times when the beach hunting would be at its best and those time windows were very short and only came occasionally. Sometimes only hours long. Couldn't imagine using a machine that required a slow sweep speed or one that required digging most everything. You can't waste a single second.
At this time I do have some Fisher units ( 1280X, F-75), so the CZ-21 was a possibility. After checking into the BHID 300, I began to see that not only was it a capable unit but something that would be fun to use. Last time I checked, that was part of the hobby. Price new was considerably less than some of the other highly touted units, so that didn't hurt. I must admit that I was intrigued by the possibilities of the BHID 300.
The combination of the dual freq. and the 12" coil was just the start. Using All Metal with the Lights is great, especially using the Gobble - Gobble supertune. For the most part if you see RED, forget it.
Control unit mounted on my hip very comfortably with lights visible and control knobs easily accessible. Large 12' coil sort of glided effortlessly on the wet sand which made the operation less tiring and allowed me to scrub the surface. Initially, I used my 6" X 11" sandscoop but later went to my shovel with the 12' long blade on the wet sand. The handle on the shovel is another 6" or 8" long, so the whole thing is 18" or 20" long. There were a number of targets that I tried to dig with the scoop that I never got down to. At times, while using the shovel, I was in the hole almost to the top of the handle. All targets were recovered with the shovel.
The above was during a week at Galveston after "IKE" and during the annual minus tides. BHID was very stable and used the AM supertune all the time. I'll be using the BHID 300 in fresh water shortly and I'm looking forward to recovering some great stuff.
Good luck with the unit you decide on. HH
HH thanks for the information its good stuff. Have you found a gold ring over 6 inches deep in the water? also does it have more depth then the 1280x. I still have my 1280x very smooth machine but depth was around 6 inch on mans gold ring. I had an 8 inch coil on it back then.. again thanks so much for your help.......Jerry
Ron
HA Steve wow not good news .. I guess I am back to square one between bh 300 , CZ-21 , Excal. 1000. nothing easy anymore Ha Ha.. anyway thank you for the information ..... Jerryglasartisan said:Hi Jerry,
I had 2 last summer. 2nd was the replacement to the first BH300.First one had no depth at all,bad coil.Got a replacement and almost the same thing, depth was not that much better 6-7 inches on a quarter buried in sand and machine could not even pick it up. My hunting partners were using cz-20 and x-cal.They would call me over when they got a deep buried target out in the water and I would then run my 300 over it in all metal and descrim and not a peep out of it and I know the machine was well ground balanced.That was it for the 300. A 2nd bad coil I highly doubt it..Keep in mind thats a 12 inch coil on the 300. My buddies have 10 inch coils that get awesome depth and were killing me in the depth department.Now it could be true that the guys using the 300 in salt water are getting better depth because of the conductivity of the salt than the guys that use them in fresh water like myself.I now use CZ-21, X-Cal 2 and a Headhunter. Great machines.Good luck, Steve
Jackalope said:Jerry:
Although I can't really speak to the experiences of others, here's my take on the BHID 300.
I had been using my 1280X for a few years and thought it was time for something new. Like many others who read the posts here, I was leaning toward getting an Excal. Obviously an excellent machine but something told me it wasn't what I wanted. Was leaning even harder toward the White's DF P. I., but even though my 1280X had some discrimination on it, the P. I. appeared to be the same old thing, i.e. dig most everything. Again, great machine but just not for me.
What sort of turned my head was reading the excellent material at the Golden Olde web site and some messages from forum members. It became apparent to me that there were certain times when the beach hunting would be at its best and those time windows were very short and only came occasionally. Sometimes only hours long. Couldn't imagine using a machine that required a slow sweep speed or one that required digging most everything. You can't waste a single second.
At this time I do have some Fisher units ( 1280X, F-75), so the CZ-21 was a possibility. After checking into the BHID 300, I began to see that not only was it a capable unit but something that would be fun to use. Last time I checked, that was part of the hobby. Price new was considerably less than some of the other highly touted units, so that didn't hurt. I must admit that I was intrigued by the possibilities of the BHID 300.
The combination of the dual freq. and the 12" coil was just the start. Using All Metal with the Lights is great, especially using the Gobble - Gobble supertune. For the most part if you see RED, forget it.
Control unit mounted on my hip very comfortably with lights visible and control knobs easily accessible. Large 12' coil sort of glided effortlessly on the wet sand which made the operation less tiring and allowed me to scrub the surface. Initially, I used my 6" X 11" sandscoop but later went to my shovel with the 12' long blade on the wet sand. The handle on the shovel is another 6" or 8" long, so the whole thing is 18" or 20" long. There were a number of targets that I tried to dig with the scoop that I never got down to. At times, while using the shovel, I was in the hole almost to the top of the handle. All targets were recovered with the shovel.
The above was during a week at Galveston after "IKE" and during the annual minus tides. BHID was very stable and used the AM supertune all the time. I'll be using the BHID 300 in fresh water shortly and I'm looking forward to recovering some great stuff.
Good luck with the unit you decide on. HH
forgive me Ron but what is the Gobble supertune ?
Ron
Jerry:
Did find a couple of rings during the Galveston trip but lack an exact depth on both of them. One was, what I believe to be, a silver peace ring and the other has a large initial on it. Did find a 14K Gold bracelet. I didn't mention it before but the BHID presents the All Metal signal differently for different types of targets. I'm talking about ramp up, duration, ramp down, etc. So, although you are in All Metal, you have the machine I.D. (the lights) and your mental I.D. ( Target Sounds) to help sort the good from the junk. It became apparent to me that with some experience on the unit, a hunter could cover large areas of beach and at the same time bypass the junk targets with a reasonably high degree of confidence.
As far as the supertune; do an author search on this forum for Gobble - Gobble and look for his BHID setup. Basically, you set up the BHID normally in All Metal and ground balance. Then you turn the Sens. to max., hit the reset to restore the threshold, select AM again and re-ground balance. This allows you to run the BHID at max Sens which means much more depth.
I'm pretty sure that the 1280X, if properly adjusted, is a fairly deep seeking machine. My interest in the BHID over the 1280X was not depth but rather the additional tools provided in AM to sort good from bad targets. Also. the BHID is just fun to use.
Ron
Did find a couple of rings during the Galveston trip but lack an exact depth on both of them. One was, what I believe to be, a silver peace ring and the other has a large initial on it. Did find a 14K Gold bracelet. I didn't mention it before but the BHID presents the All Metal signal differently for different types of targets. I'm talking about ramp up, duration, ramp down, etc. So, although you are in All Metal, you have the machine I.D. (the lights) and your mental I.D. ( Target Sounds) to help sort the good from the junk. It became apparent to me that with some experience on the unit, a hunter could cover large areas of beach and at the same time bypass the junk targets with a reasonably high degree of confidence.
As far as the supertune; do an author search on this forum for Gobble - Gobble and look for his BHID setup. Basically, you set up the BHID normally in All Metal and ground balance. Then you turn the Sens. to max., hit the reset to restore the threshold, select AM again and re-ground balance. This allows you to run the BHID at max Sens which means much more depth.
I'm pretty sure that the 1280X, if properly adjusted, is a fairly deep seeking machine. My interest in the BHID over the 1280X was not depth but rather the additional tools provided in AM to sort good from bad targets. Also. the BHID is just fun to use.
Ron