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Beach Dry Sand Hunters- Question On Targets

Critterhunter

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I've got a large beach on the great lakes that is just loaded to the gills with trash. A few times when I've been there I've seen a few other beach hunters and this low lifes leave the trash they dig laying right on top of the sand. No wonder it's loaded with trash. Anyway, I'm curious who else out there has a local beach that is just full of non-ferrous trash such as bits of aluminum cans, pulltabs, pennies, bottle caps, and various other usual bits of trash that people leave laying around. The other beaches I hunt don't have nearly as much trash and are fairly clean for the most part, making it an easy decision to scoop each and every signal I come across that isn't iron. With this beach, however, it takes me about an hour just to walk say 80 yards in a straight line, scooping each and every signal I come across.

What is getting old is the bits of can slaw. Every time I hear one I know darn good and well what it's going to be, because they often give a worbly kind of sick audio sound to them and will range up and down in digits by say 3 to 5 or more, never locking onto one or two digits for the most part. Even if they give a solid ID from one direction they'll often change drasticly in ID (and audio) when sweeping from another angle.

I've about had it up to here with digging that stuff out of this beach, as it's simply loaded with junk and would take me months to grid out any large portion of it. Even though I scoop penny and coin signals at all other beaches in the hopes of a silver or large gold ring, have to admit that I'm not digging anything that reads above a zinc penny (173) on the meter. Just too many of them pennies laying around here. I find myself avoiding this beach and wanting to go to cleaner beaches where there isn't nearly as much trash. On the other hand, for the same reason I'm sure most other hunters are also avoiding this particular beach.

I'm not going to put the kind of effort into this beach to scoop each and every signal out of there. Not enough time and too many more productive places to hunt this summer. Lacking that kind of effort, I'm asking if any of you hunt a beach under the same kinds of conditions and if you've developed a strategy for hunting it. Currently I'm only scooping solid signals that don't change by more than a digit or two regardless of what way I sweep over them. That eliminates much of the can slaw and oddly shaped foil for the most part. Not digging anything above 173 gets rid of the pennies. I of course don't mind and want to dig any tab signals or anything else that gives a consistant audio and doesn't change in ID by more than a digit or two.

In my testing of well over 100 rings I have found that 99% of them don't vary much in ID, perhaps only changing by a digit or two at the very most but rarely even that. The audio stays good and for the most part the ID should be as stable as say a nickle. If it varies more than that it's probably an odd piece of trash. What I'm wondering is how many of you have dug a nice ring that gave bad audio and ID like a piece of can shard? It kills me to pass those signals at this beach but I see no other way to hunt the place.
 
Critter 99% of the time any target that has an echo right before and after is junk. Gold has a nice clean sound but some of the junk sounds to good not to check out. If you can glue a nickle inside your shoe (don't laugh) it makes an excellent reference tone as close to gold as I have found. That helps me a lot of times as to dig or not. Put in the opposite shoe from your swing side. Can slaw is a pain in the @$$ but it sounds good. Good luck and HH :minelab:
 
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I feel it is my duty to take my trash and dispose of it properly. Who in their right minds want to keep finding the same trash over and over again? I recognize can slaw by the fluctuation in numbers also. Sometimes the stuff just sounds real good as a target. The only thing I can recommend is selective hunting like you have been doing. Or narrow it down to a small area and dig it all. The beach isn't going anywhere. You have time to pick and choose. And if you see that guy leaving his trash behind give him a piece of your mind.
 
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both links are to posts you made that would seem to indicate how you might handle the beach in question.

we all wish there was a shortcut through trashy areas or similiar situations, something to cut down on the trash and get the goodies. gridding is one way to get a handle on it, your reducing the size of an area to hunt into small sections and might not be as daunting to deal with the amount of trash your talking about.
Also realizing that many factors influence a targets response in the ground is helpful knowledge that youve already experienced.

two targets I find on the beach that I will sometimes pass over are bottlecaps and the foil lined tops that line the top of some juice drinks. those are some very distintive responses and if Im in the right area(in front of a concession stand or similiar) I will bypass those. There are some newer bottlecaps out now that sound awfully good and I will dig those, very solid sounding and the size is right.
you can also try sizing but that doesnt help much on small pieces of foil but does help on those larger rounded balls of it, the ones the size of golf balls or tennis balls that beachgoers love to bury.
 
Hey Critter, I hunt west michigan beaches, mainly GH and MKG. GH gets a lot more traffic and is junked up to be danged. MKG is just about as bad, but they are doing a big sand replenishing there right now, so it should be free and clear of junk for a while. We need a big west blow to come in and carve things up some, everything is sanded in 3'deep right now..
 
Thanks for the input. Neil, yea I know that's one way to go about it...taking your time to grid out a small area instead of trying to ignore the real bad sounding stuff like odd shaped bits of aluminum. I've been arguing in my head the pros and cons of either approach...Do I ignore the bad sounding stuff and try to cover more ground, or do I ignore the rest of the beach and take my time to grid a small portion at a time. I just hate knowing by sound and unstable ID that it's probably an odd shaped piece of trash and then taking the time to scoop a deep hole to prove my suspiciouns.

This is only at this one particular beach. At all other beaches I hunt the amount of trash isn't nearly as bad so I take the effort to scoop each and every signal that sounds off. I keep telling myself that that trashy beach must have a bunch of gold rings laying around in it since there are so many signals laying around.
 
Critter have your friend take his E-Trac to that trashy beach and select RELIC mode then switch to TWO-TONE FERROUS from audio and go slow. If there is any good targets among all the junk he will have an excellent chance of finding them. HH :minelab:
 
Critt, If I lost my ring on that beach you dont like , 1st thing i would do is rent a metal detector to find it but within 5 minuts i would give up because its so trashy and think of all the experianced detectorists like you that will not go to that beach , I can say this thear must be some godies in all that trash i would dig it all or get a permit and a giant sifter and a bob cat and clean the beach up keep all the trash to go thru in the winter for instance heat the bulk trash to 1300 f and all the aluminium will melt out now go over the rest with a magnet , and tell a man whats left gold and silver so my advice get a permit to sift all the sand on the beach to a depth of 4 ft and take all the trash back to the prosesser and sort it out it just may pay for itself , the lake goerg beach in anoka county MN is really trashy like that full of nails boby pins pull tabs you cant walk one step without diging 10 signals i would really like to drege the whole beach thru a sifter and i can only Imagine the bounty Gunnar
 
I was at that beach again yesterday and decided to dig only targets that would only vary in ID by say 2 to 3 digits. If they varied any more than that I assumed they were going to be odd shaped pieces of trash and would skip over them. Even still, if they vary by 2 or 3 digits constantly as you sweep then often I know that's going to be trash, but I'd at least be cutting down on a large portion of trash. That was just my mood for that day. Today I'm going back and plan to dig each and every signal and just grid a small area in the blanket zone. This is a fresh water beach on the great lakes so most rings are either in the water, which is too cold to hunt yet, or in the blanket zone. Not to say other rings could not have been lost elsewhere, playing frisbee, walking from the water to your blanket, etc. Problem with the first 10 to 20 feet from the water's edge into the beach is that winter storms have blown a lot of light stuff up such as bits of foil and aluminum.

Anyway, this is the same beach where I said last year I ran into two or three hunters and none of them were picking up the trash they dug. Yesterday when I got there I saw about 5 or 6 holes dug that weren't filled back in. I cursed whoever is did that, thinking it's probably the same characters who aren't picking up their trash. I filled them back in because I didn't want somebody tripping in one and then accusing me of digging that hole, or getting kicked out by the park rangers or something.

After I filled them in I was about 30 minutes into my hunt when a guy walked up to me and said he had been detecting earlier as he proudly showed me a hand full of coins he dug. I asked what kind of machine he was using and what level of discrimination. He was using an XLT and my suspicions were confirmed in that he was running the COIN program with it, which meant he was walking right over any "trash" with that level of discrimination and so wasn't likely to find any rings. I tried to explain that concept to him but he wasn't hearing any of it. Fine, more rings for me.

So I was leading up in conversation to giving him a piece of my mind about not filling in his holes when out of no where he starts talking about how he has a bad heart and has cancer. Didn't know what that had to do with the price of rice in China but just the same I wasn't about to rake somebody over the coals who probably isn't going to be around much longer.

So no finds yesterday other than a few nickles and one ornate button made of junk metal, but after I get off the computer I'm going back to dig every single signal out of a small area. With that much trash laying around there HAS to be some gold rings and other goodies laying about.
 
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