Bandido II umax

[arpadhaz]

i know this unit is not on the market anymore but i would like to know some detail if there is someone who used this detector.
correct me if im wrong:
1.Tune switch
-norm = the manual ground balance works
-auto = the fixed ground balance works
2.Mode switch
-disc= silent so no humm
-all metall = silent also
-retune = humm what you can adjust with the threshold knob

so basicly the retune is a mode for groundbalance only

AM I RIGHT OR NOT IN THIS STATEMENTS?

can i put the silvermax coil on bandido?????????????

 

[JB(MS)]

The Tune switch allows you to set the detector to automatically retune the all metal mode threshold level or manually retune it with the Mode switch. It doesn't affect ground balance. The Silver

 

[tabdog]

Hay Arpadhaz,

Welcome to the forum.

They call me Tabdog because they think I'm a Dog.

I don't know where they get that????

You said:

[size=medium]1.Tune switch
-norm = the manual ground balance works
-auto = the fixed ground balance works[/size]

Wrong.

That's to control how the retune works in the all metal mode(AM).

Normal = You use the mode switch to re-tune the AM. The AM becomes
saturated with a response. It is then out of tune. You can manually push
the spring loaded mode switch and release. It will then be retuned. It is
just a quick move.

Auto = The machine automaticly re-tunes it self at it's own speed.

[size=medium]2.Mode switch
-disc= silent so no humm
-all metall = silent also
-retune = humm what you can adjust with the threshold knob

so basicly the retune is a mode for groundbalance only[/size]

The disc mode is silent when not responding, assuming it is set properly.

The all metal mode should be set to where you hear a slight hum. Use the
threshold knob to set the slight hum in the all metal mode only.

As I said, the retune is a spring loaded part of the switch to manually retune
the all metal mode. It is not a mode at all.

[size=medium]can i put the silvermax coil on bandido?????????????[/size]

Yes.

Hope that helps,

Tabdog

 

[arpadhaz]

i understand but i still havent got the point what the norm and the retune for.
i explain:
the auto is sounds like my vaquero in all metall : the humm disappear when a metall is passing front of the coil and make beeps.(well if is farther is only change)
as i read the manual(i dont have the bandido) on the homepage of the tesoro in norm all metal the humm never disappear only rising when the metall is there.so if you want to pinpoint you have to press retune and youll get what you would get in auto and once again when you want to get back to norm.
So i dont understand why just dont switch to auto if you want to pinpoint in norm.
and what the norm all metal is for?the continuos humm why good?

tell me if my guess is wrong!

 

[Corteser]

Here is a link to the owners manual at the Tesoro website: Bandido II Umax Owners Manual

 

[arpadhaz]

thats what i read !
but i still dont understand what is the different between norm+retune and auto!
see what i mean?
both gives beeps in all metal and gives you automatic retune.
right?

 

[rentasquid]

I always used manual and retuned it myself.

J.

 

[akille68]

Hello,
The difference is "control".
With an auto setting tune, the machine can tune on a object and null it.
With a manual tuning it's You that decide when and where do it.
Just my 2 cents.

 

[tabdog]

Hay Arpadhaz,

They are different.

[size=medium]both gives beeps in all metal and gives
you automatic retune.
right?[/size]

First off, it is not really a beep, unless you sweep fast.
It only works in all metal, so it is non motion.

In all metal, the tone increases in intensity as the coil
moves toward the target until the coil is directly over the
target. Then it decreases as it goes away from the target.

In norm, when the tune drifts because of a response to a
target, it does not try to retun it self like in the auto mode.
That can make it more stable on small objects.

In auto, it will always retune at the same speed. That is
OK for hunting or pin pointing larger objects. But it can
seem as if it is constantly changing. That can make it
more difficult to determin the ID and location of a small
object. That's effected with the sounds and changes of
tone in auto, as opposed to the more stable drift of the
norm setting.

HH,

TD

 

[tabdog]

[size=medium]the continuos humm why good?[/size]

You can not ground balance without a hum. For the hum to go quiet,

there has to be a hum in the first place.

It helps dealing with minerals and changes in ground make up. It lets

you know when it is retuned.

Those are some of the reasons.


I tried to clear up the other stuff in the above post.

Hope that helps,

TD

 

[arpadhaz]

i think i got you mate!
but one thing is i m thinking about:
if im in norm and i push the retune the humm will disappear.
so basicly is going to be a silentsearch all metal mode! right?
so what if i just turn the threshold up in this position and get extra depth with at because when the humm is there you just cant turn it high in all metall.

 

[tabdog]

Your gettin close, but when you said:

[size=medium]if im in norm and i push the retune the humm will disappear.[/size]

That's not correct.

When you hit tha re-tune, it returns the hum.

The hum is your reference point.

Re-tune means to return to the reference point.

That is true if it retuns in auto or you re-tune in norm.

In other words re-tune is re-tune either way.

So, it's not a silent search. It is non-motion

threshold based all metal mode.

You can turn it up and make the deeper targets

sound louder. I don't know if that really increases

depth, but it makes the deeper targets easier to hear.

But it makes judging depth difficult and using the

all metal mode like that is just about useless.

Happy Huntin,

Tabdog

 

[arpadhaz]

the manual says :
Gradually move the quarter closer to the searchcoil

 

[akille68]

the manual says :
Gradually move the quarter closer to the searchcoil

 

[arpadhaz]

anyway so if i use the autotune basicly i will have a vaquero.right?
on bandido in disc silentsearch the threshold can also increase depth if you turn it up?
well to compare the vaquero with bandido 2 the V how many % deeper?
its post to be because newer model.