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Old California

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Been a long time using my GT. Started a meter project a while back and parked it. Recently, Picked up were I left off and started the next phase, this would be a three step project and now I've completed the second step.

Have everything were they belong, took her out for a couple of quick field test maybe an hour combined between the two hunts.

Picked up a 1900 v-nickel, believe it's 1900 hard to read the last number. And an interesting button, a clipped penny. Interesting though, the clipped penny had a good signal, deep and high pitch but turned out to be only few inches down. Still, Was impressed the GT was able to respond to the small find.

Overall, Very impressed with the Patriot Meter mod. Now, Will complete the last phase which is remounting the Patriot circuit board inside the GT housing. Then, Remount all the meter controls into the inside upper GT housing so the switches are neatly arranged on the upper GT housing all within reach. Plus, The Patriot Meter has it's advantages with some of its features. For instance, Selecting Block instead of Linear brings in Buffalo, V-Nickels and regular nickels to ID the same.

Some Patriot Meter users may choose Linear mode, but I prefer to use Block which helps me detect more nickels especially deeper nickels..

This mod, Eliminated the coil cables connected to the meter. Now, The coil connector mounts directly to the rear housing, The Analog meter assembly is wired directly to the Patriot Meter circuit board, the circuit board is wired to the GT board. Very clean, no excessive cable which enhanced the balance.

Also, Many Thanks to Joe Patrick for inventing the Patriot Meter. I truly believe had Minelab and Joe emplmented Joe's Patriot Meter onto a GT this would have been the outcome with the modified model below.

And Thanks to Ron from Michigan and all the other Sovereign users for helping maintain the forum.

Thanks for looking,
Paul
 
Very cool mod Paul, Funny that you should post this as just the other day I was watching the U-tube interview of Joe Patrick talking about his Patriot meter. Fascinating.

Rich (Utah)
 
Hello Rick and thanks for the encouraging words, that's exactly how I feel about Joe Patrick.

Great invertor, just wish Minelab would have used Joe's Patriot Meter on a future Sovereign wired directly to the board.

They would have sold a bundle, then and now would have been in demand for years.

The plastic meter housing is off an XLT, works perfect for the Patriot Meter assembly.

Thanks again,
Paul
 
Looks like an awesome meter and a terrific mod! Yes, what an amazing machine ML would have if they used this combo (especially if it was waterproof)! Are Patriot meters still being sold? Joe Patrick seems like a talented guy (I just watched that video). Btw Old California, I also enjoy your posts on the MX Sport (I bought an early issue and had the firmware upgrade). I love my old Sov XS -2 Pro; the Sov's tones are the best around!
Rob
 
Thanks Rob,

It's finally finished, the last of the third phase is in place. This was three years in the making, finally made time to complete the second and and now the final phase.

Patriot Meters are rare, only pop up used once in awhile. Worth every cent, I purshased my meter from Joe Patrick he happened to have a used one he was selling for a friend.

Joe Patrick is extreamly talented, hope Joe continues with these great inventions.

Minelab should have put Joe's Patriot Meter inside a future GT, could have been a great success. Well, here's the final phase, guess this will be a one of a kind GTP. That's (P) for Patriot, I'm extremely lucky to have one.

(MX Sport). Yes, Great unit, too bad it started off with issues. I'm still using mine, just been hard to get out lately with work and family emergency.

Glad to hear you sent your MX Sport in for the Firmware, and glad to hear you still have a Sovereign. You're not kidding, the tones are great especially alerting the user with the deep audio on deeper coins.

Thanks Rob!
Paul
 
Well, It's done. Switched over to a T-handle today.

Feels so much better balanced, lighter too the lightweight T-handle is great!

Paul
 
Let us know how she works on her maiden voyage.

Rich (Utah)
 
Has Mel Parker contacted you he was looking for one of those meters.
 
Yes, Mel did and passed all information of Joe Patrick to him.

It's refreshing to see others interested in Joe's meter, they are a good Meter. A couple of features help the user, hope Mel finds one.

Take care,
Paul
 
I will Rich,

Taking her out today to an old pounded park, nabbed a v-nickel the other day with the GT, be interested to see if I can get another deep coin today with the new setup.

Take care,
Paul
 
Old California -

I am in the process of hunting down a Sovereign GT, for hip or chest mount. I used an XS-2a Pro for a while hunting the yards of old homes and really liked what it could do. The big kicker for me was all the extra weight and the mess with the meter cables. I elected to go with an e-trac instead which has been a really good detector for me. So I understand your project of deleting all of that cable and integrating the best of the target ID meters out there. Seems somebody out there was offering a small round digital display that replaced the speaker. Only trouble was that you had to have the housing situated so that you could see the readout. Having the meter on the search rod handle is a great place for it.

Hope the day out with the project went well.


Rich (Utah)
 
I picked a GT about 3 years ago, and a patriot meter was included.
opened it to see what it was, but that's it.
I beach hunt so never had a use for it.
 
The In-site meter was also made by Joe as it fit in where the speaker was, so it may not been very big, but sure made less cables and less weight. I wanted to get one put in one of my Sovereigns, but before I could do this they were not made anymore.

Now I maybe different than many, or learned my Sovereigns with the Sun Ray 180 meters so those digital number told me a lot as how I could get them to raise on some of the deep coins and those with iron in the same hole. I tried other meters including the Patriot meter and didn't find any that I got the results I could with my 180 Sun Ray meters. I tried 2 of the Patriot meters to be sure I didn't have a bad one. Now I read where Paul is really liking his and I do like the mod he has done and hope to someday run into a person that really knows his Patriot meter and do some actual in ground comparison.

Wont be able to do it this year as I am recovering from both total replacement knees replacement and was told metal detecting will have to wait.


Rick
 
Hello Mike,

If you're interested in selling the Patriot Meter, I'm interested in purchasing it from you. I have another Sovereign I'd like to add one too.

Tried to PM you. But you must be a new member?

Paul
 
Hello Rich,

Rick (ND) is correct, Joe Patrick made the smell speaker size Meter. I believe a user has to send in the control box to him? But he may be retired, not sure if Joe still does these mods?

Didn't get a chance to use the Sovereign yesterday, maybe today looking so forward to it.

Paul
 
Enjoy your rest Rick from the surgery, you've always been an extremely busy person with your business and family priorities.

And thanks for mentioning you noticed the Patriot Meter needle not rising higher with the Sunray Meter with iron in the hole.

I'll have to try that and compare someday, I am noticing the Patriot Meter does somewhat rise on deep coins, but I'm using Block instead of Linear. Block places a short window of fines in the same category if I'm understanding it correctly, Shield nickels, v-nickels, Buffalo and regular nickels will come ID the same. So maybe Linear mode enhances the needle to spike up higher with the coil wiggle because with the Linear feature targets ID whatever conductity is.

I'll have to compare both features, I'm really liking the Block feature but maybe on deep coins can switch to Linear to check the deeper coins then flip back after checking the target.

I've used all Meters in my time, each have advantages. Always enjoyed digging old nickels, and various types of nickels do ID different. Block feature gets these to ID the same, Linear was designed to show proper conductity and that would be the true feature for digging various nickels. But for me I prefer Block.

Get well Rick, enjoy the rest.
Paul
 
If you want to sell your meter? I'm interested. Thanks Mel Parker
 
yes, I will, its something I have no use for.....let me stick a battery in it tonight, and ill get some pics up
 
Give Mel Parker first dibs, he's needing one. But, if for some reason he decides not to purshase the meter I'll buy it.

I can use another one for my Sovereign XS, appreciate this.

Best wishes,
Paul
 
OK thanks let me know if it works. Thanks Mel
 
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