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[/img] Remember when I said that I could not get a high tone in my yard with nail dime nail in combine well I had set my disc line at 31 to 35 there was another nail I had left by the hole didn't here it because I had it disc out :veryangry: which messed up my testing

Anyway back to the hunt here are the settings I used pattern 1 was total open screen ferrous coin combine fe line at 26 pattern 2 was open screen ferrous coin combine fe line at 26 with disc set at 31 to 35 my user button was high trash open screen conduct 4 tone pattern 2 for user screen was open screen with 31 to 35 disc out .

Now I would run in high trash open screen hit a signal and switch to pattern 2 high trash with 31 to 35 disc out when I was in pattern 2 sometimes the cursor would lock on the target better compared to pattern 1 such as the 1920 penny I found which happens to be the only coin I would not of dug in my combine modes this had a lot of iron with it mostly nails.

After finding the object I would switch to pattern 1 ferrous coin combine if I got a high tone with grunts I would go to pattern 2 ferrous coin with the 31 to 35 line disc out this made it a lot easier to hear just the high tone okay .Sounds like a lot of switching but can be done in about 15 seconds or less .

Getting back to ferrous coin combine it's hard to fool this mode real hard the only way you can mess it up is by not getting directly on the target when wiggling I think if you dig iron in this mode you are really stretching for a good signal it is that good trust me .Very hard to fool period .

I think if I had the 6 inch coil I would of got that 1920 penny because there was just to much iron under the stock coil also the two pieces of jewelry were not very good in ferrous coin combine they were ragged cursors and sounded fuzzy I think it has to do with the shape of the item ferrous coin really likes round things .

High trash sees all the conductive targets and iron that is conductive where as ferrous coin combine is very selective at what it gives a high tone to , but you will miss targets with ferrous coin that are with iron because you have to be dead on that high tone to give a high tone and it's hard in iron Lot's of iron to hit that exact spot .Now high trash really doesn't care because it doesn't have to be dead on like ferrous coin combine so it will see more targets than ferrous coin combine which is great because you can at least know where the target is because it alerted you to it .

I think I'm going to name combine mode as the confirmer it's that good just got to hear what it's doing when in iron especially with all the grunts and falsing going on that little bit of disc really helps clear a lot of the signals up. I also dug about 20 more nails just to make sure that ferrous coin combine was right and it was sube

 

[amberjack]

yep when I start digging iron in ferrous coin combine I know I am getting way over zealous or the spot is just about done or both.


thanks for the report and settings.

AJ

 

[iskirkra]

Nice finds Sube. I have always hunted in ferrous coin combined but am trying to explore/learn something new from your posts. You seem to be really dialed in to the CTX. In this hunt you were running in high trash open screen conduct 4 tone before switching to pattern 2 and then switching to ferrous coin combined patterns. Initially in conduct 4 tone, are you always watching the screen and only switching if the ID looked promising or are you switching on every hit? The places I hunt, in open screen conduct 4 tone, I would get many signals every sweep.

Thanks, Randy

 

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No I was not watching the screen all the time mostly going by sound , yes was hitting many signals almost like a new place lol that was never searched before I'm getting the feeling that 4 conduct in high trash ferrous coin ground coin and low trash needs a ton of disc .Well be adding more disc to see what happens as far as high trash ( is able to give a high tone on the area of the screen that's not disc out regardless if the low conductor is larger than the high conductor ) that's why you need to run more disc to eliminate all those other signals that are low and in your excepted area .

This seems to be true in all the modes when you run in conductive only see the pattern all the tones above that 31 to 35 line are going take that tone for that bin when you get a signal . But if you ran high trash in combine with a 31 to 35 line disc out you won't here as much iron and if you had your fe line set at 20 all those tones would go low ( like I said I like combine ) This was only a test but what I'm am seeing is you should stay in combine.

Now here's what I'm going to run next high trash in combine 31 to 35 line disc out fe line at 20 it's still going to alert you to more targets than ferrous coin with the same settings in ferrous coin the cursor has a hard time getting to the 12 line where it wants to be when it's loaded with iron and dime but high trash because of ( is able to give a high tone on the area of the screen that's not disc out regardless if the low conductor is larger than the high conductor ) will place this type of hit at say 29.45 to 12.45. But one important point I want to make is to stay right on that signal just wiggle or shake your detector on that exact spot if you don't you will get a unstable cursor trying to go low and high at the same time ( it's like dime nail dime ) or what the detector is telling you it's low high low but if you stay on that spot it's high high high a 6 inch coil is your friend here because there's less iron under the coil.

One other point if your sweeping to fast you will never hear half of these targets go slow let the machine gather that imfo that it's so good at .Another thing if you use pattern 1 in any mode stock pattern you will get a signal on these nail dime nail hits or others but you have to crawl to get a high tone with less disc the window opens up and sweep speed can be 4 seconds for a complete sweep but with full disc 10 or 12 seconds will do. just because the iron is disc out does not mean that the iron will not effect your cursor your in a lull dead but that high tone will be heard .

So try this next time out and then check in combine ferrous coin this well get rid of all those other signals you are hearing that are below that fe line of 20 even if you get a 29.45 which is below your fe line it well high tone in high trash but all that other iron nail and such at 31 to 35 you will not have to listen to .

 

[iskirkra]

Thanks Sube, I will give that a try next time, I like the idea of staying in combined mode, will try high trash in combined with the setting you talked about and give it a try.

Thanks, Randy