took the gt out to the coin garden it would hit the 9in. dime most of the time had to keep changing the sens. to get it to pick it up, the 9in. nickel it was hard to get it to pick it up at all,the atpro would pick up both with no problem I was very surprised that the gt had a hard time on the to coins the coins have been in the ground about a month both the gt and at hit the 5in. coins very good.
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atpro V sovgt on 9in. dime and nickel
- Thread starter rick5224
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The Sovereigns don't like freshly buried coins, so it will not hit on them very good. One month is still freshly buried and maybe check them in a couple more years.
Depth come with experience and going slow enough with the correct sensitivity setting with the Sovereign and I have personally dug wheat pennies and silver dimes at over 12 inches deep with the 8 inch coil, but had to go real slow and listen very close to hear the tone change of a target.. I too have a AT Pro and used it a few times, but never dig as deep as i do with the GT.
Stick with the GT and learn all you can and have some patience as those that do, see why so many of us swear by the Sovereigns.
Depth come with experience and going slow enough with the correct sensitivity setting with the Sovereign and I have personally dug wheat pennies and silver dimes at over 12 inches deep with the 8 inch coil, but had to go real slow and listen very close to hear the tone change of a target.. I too have a AT Pro and used it a few times, but never dig as deep as i do with the GT.
Stick with the GT and learn all you can and have some patience as those that do, see why so many of us swear by the Sovereigns.
Rick, I will be making my first hunt with the gt this weekend I am looking foward to learning the gt I know it is a good unit Can't wait to get to the beach but I found a local swimming hold last week I found 4 rings one big .925 3 junk one bracelet looks good but can't read the stamp.I was using the atpro and only covered about 20 yards a lot left to hunt this time with the gt.
JimmyCT
Well-known member
I second what RickND is stating. I have had many detectors but none matching the depth that I have found IH and Wheat cents at with the Sov GT. Before buying the GT, I searched high and low for my next detector. I started seaching with several internet search engines and many of the links kept on bringing to findmall. I then started searching through all the different forums.... then my eyes ran over a few articles by RickND, Critterhunter and by several others and the words they spoke about the sovereign just caught my attention. I was intrigued with the words they spoke and what the sov series detector was capable of doing without the frills of computerized menus, sub-menus etc ( I want to be clear, I am not "knocking" other minelab detectors, I am describing what I was seeking to find in a detector) I read so many articles my pupils needed eye drops lol. Obviously in the end, I went for and bought the Sovereign GT.
I will admit, that if there wasn't this great forum to give me guidance with this detector, I would of given up before I started lol funny but very true. What really helped me was investing in a meter. I have nothing against the AT Pro and have no experience operating one. There are many super detectors out there and are better at things then the Sovereign (Freshly buried items, air tests, etc) I notice once I open the hole and re-check with the GT, many times I can not locate the object. I know it is there its like RickNd mentions, The sov hates the "air gap" and freshly buried targets.
Case in point - this summer I had the awesome priviledge of hunting an old carnival ground that was being bulldozed. In the very beginning I found most of my finds, but as time went on and the heavy equipment starting tossing the dirt around and mixing it, I noticed my finds dropped off significantly. I bet the AT Pro or any other detector that does real well in air tests, would of found more then what I was finding.
summary of my experience and readings - the sov series is an awesome detector for undisturbed ground. When things get dug up and tossed around, I totally agree with what others experience as well: there are better detectors to get the job done.
Best of luck! - Jim
I will admit, that if there wasn't this great forum to give me guidance with this detector, I would of given up before I started lol funny but very true. What really helped me was investing in a meter. I have nothing against the AT Pro and have no experience operating one. There are many super detectors out there and are better at things then the Sovereign (Freshly buried items, air tests, etc) I notice once I open the hole and re-check with the GT, many times I can not locate the object. I know it is there its like RickNd mentions, The sov hates the "air gap" and freshly buried targets.
Case in point - this summer I had the awesome priviledge of hunting an old carnival ground that was being bulldozed. In the very beginning I found most of my finds, but as time went on and the heavy equipment starting tossing the dirt around and mixing it, I noticed my finds dropped off significantly. I bet the AT Pro or any other detector that does real well in air tests, would of found more then what I was finding.
summary of my experience and readings - the sov series is an awesome detector for undisturbed ground. When things get dug up and tossed around, I totally agree with what others experience as well: there are better detectors to get the job done.
Best of luck! - Jim
Neil
Well-known member
Jim I will add another point to what your saying here and that is that Ive found the sov is not good on smaller objects at depth. An example would be Ive dug some rings that had a decent signal and when digging them they get turned sideways in the hole and I will loose the signal. Im guess the sov is only seeing the part of the ring at the top because at the same depth if the ring is flat in the hole its a clear signal. A detector like the AT pro or a Tesoro Tejon is gonna hit a ring on edge deeper than the Sov will, Ive already seen that, and Im guessing its because they will hit smaller targets and have good depth to boot.
As far as freshly buried targets and the problems the sov has with them....I will say that on a beach some coins get buried deep quickly and are not there for long but the sov will find them. the beach may offer other advantages not found inland in the form of water or salt so that may be why you can find freshly buried targets deep at the beach with a Sov.
As far as freshly buried targets and the problems the sov has with them....I will say that on a beach some coins get buried deep quickly and are not there for long but the sov will find them. the beach may offer other advantages not found inland in the form of water or salt so that may be why you can find freshly buried targets deep at the beach with a Sov.
Rick5224,My coin garden usually decides weather a detector will make its cut or not.I have used several detectors in my coin garden.I didn't have very good results with the ATPro.Example a 1236-X2 or MXT IMHO would be in a different league.Explorers and Sovereigns usually were the bench mark for depth and time again proved it in the coin garden.The ATPro I used even with the sensitivity maxed just didn't have the depth or the stability as the mid tier detectors.Maybe my ground condition give different results.LOL never did understand how the ATPro was considered to go X number of feet underwater with the stock headphones that were not water proof. Good Luck Ron
Critterhunter
New member
The AT Pro won't get as deep in any kind of minerals as the Sovereign. One other thing to remember is that BBS technology means you get more accurate IDs at depth than you will with conventional VLF detectors. My GT gives me more stable ID at depth than my Explorers even did. Some say the GT gets more depth than an Etrac or at least provides a more stabile ID at depth on a coin. From what I've seen having used an Etrac some I'd say this is true. The conductive/ferrous numbering system on an Etrac or Explorer has too much fine resolution and can make a coin seem to jump all over the place at depth.
The Sovereign will go deeper than the AT Pro in most circumstances ......However , the AT Pro handles masking issues MUCH better than the AT Pro .......From my experience , the E Trac is also much more stable than the Sovereign GT at any depth over about 6 inches or so, and also handles masking issues better .....The E Trac excels especially on deep Silver .. ..... At anything beyond about 7" the AT Pro will start to give off low tones as if you were hitting Iron ..... I dig ANYTHING deep when running the AT Pro ...... Anything too close to Silver with the Sovereign will result in masking problems ......I own all the above machines and have hunted them quite a bit ....Jim
The GT can get a bit fussy in minearalized ground operating in disq , I know what you are saying it is true, the GT falters at the 9" mark you have to be carfull not to have to much sensitivity and you may need a higher threshold , I am impressed that the AT pro got that at 9" in ground , but if the ground is really bad the GT all metal modes are incredible ,
I have been back out with the gt I can get it to hit the 9in nickel with a faster sweep of the coil in disc and auto or max sen. the 9in dime it hits fairly well, the atpro hits the 9in nickel hard and loud the dime it hits but not as strong , both are strong on the 5in. coins.I am going to the beach this weekend and can't wait to see how it works.
It depends on the beach and salt content .......Some beaches I can GB the AT Pro at around 14 or so ......Last weekend I hit a 7.5 gram Gold ring at 9 inches in the wet salt sand .......A modded Excal with a Doc's amp hit the same ring at 12 inches ......A bone stock CZ21 hit the same ring at 15 inches and the signal was very much repeatable and did not have to be wiggled or swung at any particular speed ....We were ALL shocked !!.....Jim