are most detectors overpriced?

[peter-d]

considering the cheap alloys and plastics, and the generic electronics that go into most detectors, are they way overpriced?

i imagine that the end cost of a mass produced detector that retails for $400-$700 is probably under $100. the chinese would make them for half that.

units that cost $1500 probably only cost $200-$300 to make....again, remember, electronics are cheap, as are the alloys and plastic used in detectors.

 

[coinhog]

I have given that some thought in the past,, and I tend to agree with you,, but its like anything else,, charge what the market will bear

 

[peter-d]

of course, the question that follows is; are cheapie detectors from supermarkets just as good as bottom of the range 'brand' models, that retail for twice their price ?

 

[tabdog]

Hay Peter,

Some are made cheaper than others.

My favorite is a Compadre.
It cost $152.
It has a life time warranty
It is made very well.
It works great.

Can't beat it.

I havent tried the Garrett Ace 250,
but everything I've seen that they
make is very well made.

Others. ????????????????????

Think about suvey equipment$$$$$$$$$$$$$
think about musical instruments$$$$$$$$$$
think about medical equipment$$$$$$$$$$$
and the list goes on and on and on and on and on

Happy Hunting,

Tabdog

 

[peter-d]

you can get a pretty sophisticated organ for $400.....the same price as a compadre in australia.....

 

[peter-d]

you can get a pretty sophisticated organ for $400.....the same price as a compadre in australia.....
laser surveyors thingys are under $100 at some hardware places. electric guitars are only $150 with speakers, power tools are $30..........
.the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on............

detectors are way overpriced. so much in fact, its a matter of time before the chinese see the opportunity and bring prices back to reality.
however they probably already do make them, and so its only a matter of someone buying them in from china.....


no, not $$$$$$$ tabdog. have you a vested interest?

i just googled..they make them all right.. http://www.b2bchinasources.com/China-Manufacturers-18014/Metal-Detector.html

 

[Wishful-thinker]

you can get a pretty sophisticated organ for $400.....the same price as a compadre in australia.....
laser surveyors thingys are under $100 at some hardware places. electric guitars are only $150 with speakers, power tools are $30..........
.the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on............

...............And you get what you pay for..,junk that wouldnt do in the real world !

go to a rock concert......NO 400. organ,or 150.guitar
go to a building site.......NO under 100.survey laser,or 30.power tools

the more you pay for something usually the better its built and longer it last.

P.S. Heres your overseas wonder.detectors from ???????
Note the fine craftmanship , Would you carry one?

 

[peter-d]

you arent comparing apples to apples....

a compadre is a bottom of the range detector...ive got one and love it. but at $400, the chinese could build the same one, with the same materials for under $50. also, i contend that the compadre cost its manufacturer under $70 now...

if you want to compare a 'rock guitar' (top of the range) to a detector you have to go to a minelab (top of the range) .....of which we are not talking about.....so your analogy is useless.


low and mid end detectors are way overpriced for what you get. they are made from cheap materials. the high range a probably overpriced too. but you are paying for the most recent technology, and the intellectual property. so there is some argument for the higher price.....



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[Wishful-thinker]

Ok , for the US the Compadre is $151. Bounty Hunter has their low end detector for $79.,the Fast Tracker
for us that is very cheap,you must pay shipping tarrifs or underpowered dollar???????
the companies may be able to buy the parts cheap but they still have to buy,ship,
assemble,ship,insure.then the retailer wants their cut,so your not just paying for the detector.

 

[Wishful-thinker]

Oh yeh ,and demand plays a role too.

 

[tabdog]

Sorry about that, but I'm a retired Professional Land

Surveyor. What makes you think a lazer is survey

equipment? That's for carpenters and contractors.

What can you get me on a one second total station,

$30,000 or $40,000. Or a Second Order Level? $5,000

You would be doing good if you could.

I should have said professional quality.

Concider the price on a quality American

made five string Fender bass, or a good

US made Strat? Many thousands of$$$$$$$$

The cheap Chinese stuff is crap. Tools too.

What can you get me on a Cheap Cat Scan machine?

Who knows. But:

The list goes on and on.

Sorry for the omission,

Tabdog

 

[tabdog]

n/t

 

[Mirco]

I would humbly compare MD market with RE market, where also until very recently everyone thought that prices (very high prices!!) were more or less right.

Then the bubble exploded and we have what we have.

Sure MDs are hugely overpriced now. All of them that are made in this country. There is nothing inside to make them expensive. No preciuos metals, no nothing. Cost to produce - less than $100 for sure. Just excited customers who see with open mouthes tons of gold in the pictures and who are trained to think that $800 for MXT is a very good deal.

But this country is the most materialistic country in the World and very soon MDing mainstream will realize the truth : $1 clad per hour of swinging is a good day. And will stop buying MDs. Used prices will drop. Many MDing manufacturers will go belly up. A very good machine will cost $200-$300, that it should realistically cost now.

Let`s face it - the majority buys MDs in hope of profit. $1 per hour is not profit. It is loss. Americans do not like loss. They will stop buying MDs. Soon. It is pure logic and economy. And common sense.

 

[peter-d]

tabdog..you still arent comparing apples...or are you finding it hard to understand the concept????

wishful-thinker...when i bough my compadre, ($425) the aud was near parity with the usd.....this moths gold and treasure mag (an aussie publication) the compadre is listed as $399, and the aud is 89us cents....go figure...

 

[Wishful-thinker]

I think your just mad because you paid more than us,mabe you should talk to the dealer who
sold it to you .Find out what his cut was.

 

[qwk]

There is a lot of research and development that goes into most detectors. The chinese just rip off somebody elses idea, which is one of the reasons they could sell them so cheap. That and the chinese stuff has horrible quality.

 

[tabdog]

It's the manipulation of a captive market.

They don't sell as many MD as cheap guitars,

tools, electronics and on and on.

How many MD'ers do you think there are.

That low number means that there aren,t

that many.

Industrial locators are even more over priced

because that market is smaller than ours

and demand is high.

One thing, they obviously can not make the

kind of bucks they do with cell phones or

something like that.

What I am saying is that captive markets

get over charged in today's market.

Of course it can all be smashed by the

loss of demand.

Don't know what point you are trying to

make, or apples you are interested in?

Tell me what prices he was talking

about. Just to straiten out my apples.

I thought he ment prices as compared to

other comodities.

Am I wrong??

I am allowed an opinion here. Aren't I?

Happy Hunting,

 

[peter-d]

it was the americans and their multi-nationals that developed the 'case study'.....Copy And Steal Everything..........copying technology isnt new, nor a chinese invention. it wasnt long ago everything was 'made in japan' and they copped the same bullshit. corporate espionage is big business, 'case study' is a basic tactic, and it aint personal...its just business.

i contend that it would be hard to use 'cheaper' material in low-mid end detectors than what they do at present.....

no worries tabdog. just saying the top end equiptment isnt what im on about...

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[Wishful-thinker]

Just to finish this debate,Yes the chinese can make them cheaper with the same materials,I know cause I bought a detector from Cummins tools $50 that was identical to the Fast tracker,same knobs same shaft same everything,except craftmanship and quality.
Brought it home and tried it .It made double beeps on everything was only good for 3" JUNK,production made.

if you dont believe me check my past post (bounty hunter only cheaper) or something like that.
thet CAN make it cheaper but that kills the appeal to me.

 

[Wishful-thinker]

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check it out i posted it before testing it!