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ARA bound....

dewcon4414

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I thought id get some of this years finds together to send off to ARA..... kind of a Merry Christmas to me. Once i got it together i realized im having a pretty good year. I sent most of last years stuff off in Jan as well as 5 rings from that month.... ive given back 4 class rings and given a ring to my brother in law and sister in law as wedding bands. There are 22 gold im sending in and i have 14 keepers..... grand total so far for the year... 45 golds i believe. The other pictures are just some silver from this year. Not bad considering i was with out an Xcal for a month and a half during this time for repairs. I dont post my finds very often here and thought some might want to see how small of earrings the Xcal will pick up in the water.... you also get some wierd things like dental silver. If it follows the same trend as last year it will slow down these next 3 months.

Dew
 
Really nice batch of rings here old friend...and they should fetch you a nice sum.:thumbup:

What's really cool is the fact that you gave back 4 of the class rings...good stuff.
 
Thanks Bryce .... means a lot you took a peak. One i just couldnt locate there. Its a good trend to make some returns..... good press for the hobby as is helping locate lost rings when you are out. Kind of off sets the ..... whose leaving all those holes. BUT.... the is a down side to it. Ive noticed more people asking me to locate stuff..... they are starting to look for us now. Also there are web sites for people you pay to find your rings some get paid.... which could end up costing you a find you posted. Ive even had other people with detectors now saying they are looking for someones ring.... did i find it? More people are checking out our sites for their lost jewelry. If you dont believe it ask Chicago Ron. He posted a picture of some of his collection and a huge college ring was recognized by the frat and he returned it. Post those once in a life time finds with caution and only if you dont mind giving them back. I know if my wife lost a $10,000 ring id be checking.

Dew
 
Dew,excellent!, the last round with the Federal Reserve gold may be on the rise??Thanks Ron
 
Nice haul Dew and the season is still on........, As Max would say...fire up the Lear, we are inbound:thumbup:
 
Joe.... Max also says.... I LIKE IT. When you retire you can ensure even more of this gold gets back into circulation. Ron i suspect with people being careful with their money even during Christmas.... after this election... the dollar has to be hurting. We just have to get China and India to stop making it artifically go up and down so they can grab short profits. Those day traders with nothing but paper holding NO gold will be called on it one day to produce.... lol then watch gold go up.

Dew
 
I sent in 10 gold rings to ARA last month for $940, not bad, but can't help but wonder if I could of made more selling them separate to people wanting to buy them? I guess ARA is more convenient.....HH
 
Nice haul there Dew! And gold IS on the rise it would appear so I think you'll have a GREAT CHRISTMAS! I may PM you soon, I have some ??? about dealing with ARA before I do it for the first time.
 
NP Robby..... ive done it a few times. Ill answer what i can and then you can just give them a call. Ive found them easy to deal with once you get an account established even easier. I hear ya John..... not that it matters to us, but i have to believe the guys making offers on your stones has to be looking over things coming in to them as well. I know i would be if they would let me as a jeweler. You know the mark up in jewelery in crazy over spot. You noticed most of mine are bands. I used to sell antiques and put them in the booth..... just put a good price on them and you could easily double spot. Now.... im keeping the good ones until someone on here has a better mouse trap.

Dew
 
Great little treasure haul there!

In reference to you guys talking of ARA...There was recent conversation in both the beach and view forums on them. They seem to have changed their policy to not dealing with the public. However, if you already have an account with them they will still deal with you, and also I heard that even if you haven't got an account with them, if you tell them you heard of them on Findmall as a metal detectorists they'll still accept you as a new account. Don't know if all that was said is true in those threads, but there you go...

I've delt with them and they were great. Sure enough, they only seem to skim 2% if you way your item to that day's stock market price of gold and then compute the numbers with an online calculater for that current day's price (not on ARA's site, google something like "gold weight market price calculator", and then put in 2% as the discount or whatever).

I've heard (?) that it's useless to insure your gold when shipping, because unless you have a receipt for what you paid for it, there is no way to get your money back should it be lost or stolen in transport. So unless you have appraisals done, which costs money, insuring is probably not going to help. And, somebody said that even if you have the right paperwork to prove their value, good luck dealing with the post office which could take months or even years to get your money back.

I had went around to all the local cash for gold places one time to price a ring's scrap value with them. Shocking they'll only give about 25 to 30% of the value of gold for that day. Then I hit a local little one man shop that deals in coins and such. His price was extremely fair for a walk in shop compared to the others, so I've delt with him in the past selling him face value silver coins and such. One day I headed in there and told him of ARA, and wanted to know if he could come anywhere near their 2% skim price. I told him I was more than willing to take $50 less than that price just to save me the cost of shipping a ring to ARA and the real or unreal perceived risk involved in it getting lost or stolen in the mail.

He didn't believe me about ARA, so he called them to see while I stood there, and when he got off the phone he said I was right about the 2% thing. He then told me he'd match ARA's price for any given day I come in on gold, so long as I didn't tell other locals of his special price for me. I said no problem, since his regular prices were already more than fair to people compared to other local shops. I then asked him how he could match ARA with only 2% being skimmed, and all he would tell me is not to worry, that he was going to make money on scraping the gold ring. It was a plain ring, so I doubt he meant he could re-sell the ring for above scrap price to a customer.

I was so happy, and knowing how tough it is to pay overhead for a business in rent and such, that I told him that I didn't want ARA's price, and to keep at least what he is saving me in shipping and a bit more for his trouble. He refused, and told me once again not to worry that he's making his money off of it. Really nice guy, and now I don't have to worry about shipping to ARA or waiting for a check in the mail.
 
I think ive read that story... before. As far as insurance....... im NOT dropping anything in the box over $3000 with no insurance. Ive had stuff lost in the PO system before yes it takes a little investigation time but with photo to justify WHY you put that much insurance on the box they are pretty good about paying. You may or may not get the total amount, but for $20 if you get anywhere near that its worth every penny of insurance. I use one of those $5 if it fits it ships boxes. ARA told me they changed their policy because they were tired of the fly by night ill buy your gold shops and taking advantage of people then selling it to them. They now require a business lincese number. BUT..... they refuse no detectist as long as they call in advance and set up an account. they are a great bunch of guys. Ive known a couple of incidents they had hickups with people..... however the manager made it good.

Dew
 
I wonder if the post office or UPS has special "monitoring" of items shipping to places like gold refinaries such as this? Seems to tempting to see "ARA" on a package if you are sorting mail or delivering it. I don't know about the post office's routines, but UPS knows where a package is every second of the day. The minute it's stuck on a truck in the warehouse it's logged as being on that truck. Now if it somehow "gets lost" between there and delivering to ARA, you can bet the driver is going to have a lot of explaining to do.
 
I only write down "ARA" and do not write down "Refinery" on the package because of that reason, not to tempt someone. I also send it delivery confirmation so I will know when it arrives. HH
 
Refinery??? isnt it American RECYCLING Associates John? Any package insured im sure in something of value and could be stolen.... thats just the way it is. BUT you keep the honest with some form of tracking.... at least the PO then has a starting point which speeds up investigations when needed. Its like locked door dont keep out thefts..... but it keeps honest people honest.

Dew
 
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