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Anyone tried the Cleansweep on the Mojave?
- Thread starter ugadigger
- Start date
Electricfrontporch
Member
"seems to be hard to find one used at a reasonable price"
That's the answer to your question!
They work amazingly well for cleaning out the first 6" of open areas.
If your looking for more depth get the 12x10 DD, it's not as good
at hitting chains ,and tiny earrings but will still smack tiny gold rings.
I use the 12x10 on my Mojave when hunting open fields and have
dug shotgun butts and coins 9-10" deep.
The cleansweep coils are expensive because they are herder to
produce to the required tolerance. That's supposedly why they
discontinued the 4pin version. Those sell for $300 easily when
they pop up for sale.
If you have sports fields that you can hunt it's definitely worth
the price of admission! Enjoy!
That's the answer to your question!
They work amazingly well for cleaning out the first 6" of open areas.
If your looking for more depth get the 12x10 DD, it's not as good
at hitting chains ,and tiny earrings but will still smack tiny gold rings.
I use the 12x10 on my Mojave when hunting open fields and have
dug shotgun butts and coins 9-10" deep.
The cleansweep coils are expensive because they are herder to
produce to the required tolerance. That's supposedly why they
discontinued the 4pin version. Those sell for $300 easily when
they pop up for sale.
If you have sports fields that you can hunt it's definitely worth
the price of admission! Enjoy!
Frank in NH
Active member
It should work well, I use one on Deleon!
Well, guess with all the new tire technology over the past years. I should be able to put new Corvette tires on my old Jeep and it will perform like a new Corvette then. No, it will just be an old Jeep with Corvette tires on it. May handle corners a little bit better though but, not all that sensible thing to do considering the cost trying to make something into what it's not....slingshot said:
chainsmoker
Member
I don't understand what is wrong with putting a clean sweep on a Mojave. Ugadigger wants to cover more ground more quickly. A Vaquero with a 9"x8" concentric isn't going to cover any more area more quickly than the Mojave.
A better metaphor comparing metal detector coils to tires would be switching out the radials on your jeep 4x4 for some big lug tires when you go off roading.
A better metaphor comparing metal detector coils to tires would be switching out the radials on your jeep 4x4 for some big lug tires when you go off roading.
Oh I would LOVE to have a cleansweep coil! For one thing, there are some huge sites I could cover quickly- picked over sites. I sometimes pass these over for a while and know it would be nice to quickly cover these areas. I was referring to cost. I paid $19 for a BH coil (4") when lesser technology existed and now that coil is around $70. My Garrett Ace coil cracked slightly after about 6 years and I considered buying the Ace 150 just for the coil!! I would put the cleansweep on my Royal Sabre or even do the mod for my Compadre - that's how bad I want one!!chainsmoker said:
Electricfrontporch
Member
Only place I use my cleansweep is the sports fields I have permission to hunt.
Screwdriver/probe only, no digging of plugs. But they have produced enough gold and silver
jewelry to make it worth it to me. Usually use my Mojave or GoldenSabre2.
Also not worried about older deep targets cause they won't let me dig holes.
You should be able to get a new 5pin clean sweep from a dealer for about$160
Screwdriver/probe only, no digging of plugs. But they have produced enough gold and silver
jewelry to make it worth it to me. Usually use my Mojave or GoldenSabre2.
Also not worried about older deep targets cause they won't let me dig holes.
You should be able to get a new 5pin clean sweep from a dealer for about$160
Electricfrontporch
Member
chainsmoker said:
Don't sweat it........a lot of folks hate the Mojave because of the whole Cazador non sense.
It was a new detector they never ended up finishing or releasing after Jack Gifford died.
Never said I did not like or hated the Mojave, it's probably a good machine for what it is. What I said was that you can't take a low end detector, put a fancy coil on it, and expect the same performance as a higher end detector. It has nothing to do with coil technology and everything to do with reality. Guess explaining this in a simple way is just too easy for some. The Mojave may be the best lower end detector out. But, it is still a low end detector along with all the other low end detectors. No matter how much some are in love with them, how expensive the aftermarket coil on it is, or how much money you invest in it. It's still and will forever be a lower end detector...Electricfrontporch said:
I think performance means different things to different people. I am a hunter satisfied with finds in the first 3-4" range. So a cleansweep on a Mojave would perform adequately. And my Ace with sniper coil- hated by some-and my Compadre -the same. Even my old Royal Sabre brings me joy. However, I have an advanced detector should I ever stumble onto an area where DEPTH is required- I have that option. FWIW, I chose an advanced detector that would work in both situations so it wouldn't just sit in the closet.
Ain't it the truth! Unless you're beep/dig, you always get half a detector. Depth with no tone splitter ID on a Vaquero. The Golden had great tones but no g/b. The Cortes had g/b in a/m, but none is disc. And on and on. Why do I care? POTENTIAL in a lightweight design. Oh well.Electricfrontporch said:
I don't think that I would call the Mojave a low end detector. By all accounts it is a very high performance detector, that happens to sell for a reasonable price. If a clean sweep coil on the Mojave makes a good pairing, and then goes on to uncover a handful of gold jewelry, I think that it will have been a success.
I just don't think that the fancy names or big price tags are that meaningful in this hobby.. A $400 Vaquero is really more than a match for a Minelab.
To continue the Corvette/ jeep parallel, here is a $36k Ford Taurus SHO smoking a Corvette ZO6 in a drag race.
[video]https://youtu.be/ijKrj_DXX0Y?t=42[/video]
To continue the Corvette/ jeep parallel, here is a $36k Ford Taurus SHO smoking a Corvette ZO6 in a drag race.
[video]https://youtu.be/ijKrj_DXX0Y?t=42[/video]
What I meant by higher end is a vaquero, outlaw, tejon. Ones that have manual ground balance in both all metal and disc modes. The 5.75 conc. and the 11x8 on my vaquero both GB out at different settings over the same spot of ground. So having a detector with a preset GB that came with say the 11x8 DD coil and wanting to put a 5.75 conc. on, without being able to adjust the GB. The GB is going to be off. Thus, your not going to get the best performance out of that coil. Sorry, that's just plain common sense as I see it anyhow. I have been wrong before though... haha. Just don't see buying a coil for as much as the detector your going to put it on with no way of dialing in is going to make that much difference in overall performance. When one can spend the same money, or even less, getting a more able machine to begin with.walnut said:
Electricfrontporch
Member
The cleansweep isn't a deep coil on any machine by most accounts.
It's all about the 18" coverage,and depth seems to max out around 6" or maybe a bit more.
I've ran it on my Outlaw, Mojave and GS2 and the depth difference
between the 3 isn't noticeable.
I'll also add that after comparing the Mojave and outlaw for 4-5 months.
I've sold the outlaw, other than the all metal functions and pinpoint,
The depth on the discrimination circuit is pretty even with the 4 coils
I've tested, even without GB control on Mojave.
Bear in mind that my dirt in Florida is as mild as it gets and
this probably wouldn't translate to someone with nasty mineralized clay soil.
It's all about the 18" coverage,and depth seems to max out around 6" or maybe a bit more.
I've ran it on my Outlaw, Mojave and GS2 and the depth difference
between the 3 isn't noticeable.
I'll also add that after comparing the Mojave and outlaw for 4-5 months.
I've sold the outlaw, other than the all metal functions and pinpoint,
The depth on the discrimination circuit is pretty even with the 4 coils
I've tested, even without GB control on Mojave.
Bear in mind that my dirt in Florida is as mild as it gets and
this probably wouldn't translate to someone with nasty mineralized clay soil.
I see your point and I completely agree. That seems to be the Tesoro way though, slight changes in features between the models, seems hard to get that one unit that has everything that you are interested in at once. I love the vaquero though. And I love Tesoro detectors. They do that to sell everyone 2 or 3 detectors rather than just one.
The Vaquero with a 8x9 or 5.75" concentric coil is the closest to perfection that you are going to get in my opinion, you get the best combination of depth, stability, discrimination and subtle tones, and the all metal vco to help trace and define weird targets.
The Vaquero with a 8x9 or 5.75" concentric coil is the closest to perfection that you are going to get in my opinion, you get the best combination of depth, stability, discrimination and subtle tones, and the all metal vco to help trace and define weird targets.
jld66 said:
cladcanada
Member
I have a Vaquero, and a silver . My go to setup is the silver with the clean sweep . I like the audio on the 5 pin machines better . Thinking an outlaw may soon replace the Vaquero . Funny how an entry level Compadre is the tot lot king .