Anyone here ever notched out everything but silver?

[Tony N (Michigan)]

I'm just curious if anyone hear has ever tried notching out everything except silver?

If you have, how did you do?

 

[Listener]

I haven't but u just need to use two tones and after u set the 1st tone break up to the start of the silver range, notch out everything above it after setting the tone break for silver. There are other options just read up on tone breaks and notching. Good luck.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

Can't I just go to 5 tones, hit Expert, white out the first four bars and darken the area in the 5th bar where silver will ring in?
Am I looking at this all wrong?

 

[Listener]

As I stated u have other options and to use them u need to read up on them and understand the consequences of losing depth and notching out other valuables.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

As I stated u have other options and to use them u need to read up on them and understand the consequences of losing depth and notching out other valuables.

That is very true that one would lose other valuables. But if one just wanted to hunt for silver . . . .

 

[CT Todd]

Tony
What number is silver ? or even the range? I'd like to know. Less internet more detecting.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

Tony
What number is silver ? or even the range? I'd like to know. Less internet more detecting.

In my soil it's around 95 to 99 depending on depth.
I asked a fair question. Sorry if my questions offend anyone.
If anyone wants me to quit posting here, just let me know.

 

[squirrel1]

Tony
What number is silver ? or even the range? I'd like to know. Less internet more detecting.

In my soil it's around 95 to 99 depending on depth.
I asked a fair question. Sorry if my questions offend anyone.
If anyone wants me to quit posting here, just let me know.

Tony I see you registered here a longtime ago.
I respect you sir.

Sharing info and asking questions, I thought that was were detecting forums were all about.

Actually Tony I was doing some tests trying what you ask about using the elliptical HF coil.

As far as answering your question.
My advice,,,lay off the notch,,instead try 3 tones and have 2 first tones reporting low tone,,the third a higher tone.
Set tone break depending on your freq used to pick up say copper or silver.

Now, tonally in a modern site, this will be a busy program with a lot of low tones,,,but the high will jump out.

If you try and use notch, you will cause Deus to chop audio, and some separation performance could be compromised.

Cheers.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

Thanks, Squirrel1.
Tonight after work I tried the 9" HF coil. At 58kHz that coil really hits hard on very thin aluminum so it should hit really well on fine gold chains.

I'm interested in having one program to go into a place and just snipe for silver. I'll have to try your suggestion. I can give the first two tones a really low sound so as not to be too distracting.
It's just something I want to try and see if it is productive.

 

[squirrel1]

Thanks, Squirrel1.
Tonight after work I tried the 9" HF coil. At 58kHz that coil really hits hard on very thin aluminum so it should hit really well on fine gold chains.

I'm interested in having one program to go into a place and just snipe for silver. I'll have to try your suggestion. I can give the first two tones a really low sound so as not to be too distracting.
It's just something I want to try and see if it is productive.

As far as the HF coil goes,,best thing I could come up with, set tone break to 91 for highest tone. Maybe even 92.
This will not insure no aluminum is dug.

Do you have the elliptical HF coil?

I have noticed using it,,,target size can be judged somewhat by tone length. Might help distinguish some of the bigger aluminum.
And beleive it or not,,,a colocated nonferrous scenario may be picked up on by the longer duration tone.
Just like the real small stuff can be picked up on by the extremely short tone.
I haven't yet experimented with round 9" HF coil yet.
I have one, just been running both HF coils.

 

[david.di]

n/t

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

Thanks, Squirrel1.
Tonight after work I tried the 9" HF coil. At 58kHz that coil really hits hard on very thin aluminum so it should hit really well on fine gold chains.

I'm interested in having one program to go into a place and just snipe for silver. I'll have to try your suggestion. I can give the first two tones a really low sound so as not to be too distracting.
It's just something I want to try and see if it is productive.

As far as the HF coil goes,,best thing I could come up with, set tone break to 91 for highest tone. Maybe even 92.
This will not insure no aluminum is dug.

Do you have the elliptical HF coil?

I have noticed using it,,,target size can be judged somewhat by tone length. Might help distinguish some of the bigger aluminum.
And beleive it or not,,,a colocated nonferrous scenario may be picked up on by the longer duration tone.
Just like the real small stuff can be picked up on by the extremely short tone.
I haven't yet experimented with round 9" HF coil yet.
I have one, just been running both HF coils.

Paul, A.K.A. (Old California), here on the forums, was kind enough to send me at no charge his 9" concentric HF coil along with his Deus Pinpointer to try out. What a guy!
He did this without me even asking me.
So, no, I have not tried the elliptical HF coil yet. If this concentric works out well, I may purchase an elliptical HF coil from Sabisch.
Thanks for the tip on what to listen to.
I live on an old, turn of the 1800's, farm with loads of square cut nails and other trash everywhere. It is my intention to locate one or two of these nails (which is really easy to do), dig a hole about 6 inches from it and tape a coin on a paint stick and shove that coin at different depths under and near that nail or nails as the case may be and determine the best settings for hitting that target and listen for the sounds that determine a true co-located target. Hopefully this will allow me to go to other sites with co-located targets so I can eek out like I do with my Explorer detectors or DFX or Muskateer. Every detector has it's own settings to allow one to hear that target in the midst of trash. The Deus is no different.

 

[Lodge Scent]

Interesting concept Tony. If I just wanted to try sniping for just silver, I probably go 8 kHz, Norm ON, and set the tone break at 88. Sometimes nearby iron will pull down the VDI of a small silver. The high conducting coins hit real good in 8 kHz. My initial thought was if using the real high frequencies you would be chasing a lot of small bits. BUT if you are setting the tone break that high you would be chasing small bits of silver

I'm a relic hunter so sniping for silver is out of my league. I'll be curious how you make out. Good luck !

 

[squirrel1]

Thanks, Squirrel1.
Tonight after work I tried the 9" HF coil. At 58kHz that coil really hits hard on very thin aluminum so it should hit really well on fine gold chains.

I'm interested in having one program to go into a place and just snipe for silver. I'll have to try your suggestion. I can give the first two tones a really low sound so as not to be too distracting.
It's just something I want to try and see if it is productive.

As far as the HF coil goes,,best thing I could come up with, set tone break to 91 for highest tone. Maybe even 92.
This will not insure no aluminum is dug.

Do you have the elliptical HF coil?

I have noticed using it,,,target size can be judged somewhat by tone length. Might help distinguish some of the bigger aluminum.
And beleive it or not,,,a colocated nonferrous scenario may be picked up on by the longer duration tone.
Just like the real small stuff can be picked up on by the extremely short tone.
I haven't yet experimented with round 9" HF coil yet.
I have one, just been running both HF coils.

Paul, A.K.A. (Old California), here on the forums, was kind enough to send me at no charge his 9" concentric HF coil along with his Deus Pinpointer to try out. What a guy!
He did this without me even asking me.
So, no, I have not tried the elliptical HF coil yet. If this concentric works out well, I may purchase an elliptical HF coil from Sabisch.
Thanks for the tip on what to listen to.
I live on an old, turn of the 1800's, farm with loads of square cut nails and other trash everywhere. It is my intention to locate one or two of these nails (which is really easy to do), dig a hole about 6 inches from it and tape a coin on a paint stick and shove that coin at different depths under and near that nail or nails as the case may be and determine the best settings for hitting that target and listen for the sounds that determine a true co-located target. Hopefully this will allow me to go to other sites with co-located targets so I can eek out like I do with my Explorer detectors or DFX or Muskateer. Every detector has it's own settings to allow one to hear that target in the midst of trash. The Deus is no different.

Paul is a top notched gent.

He should be working for a detector manufacturer.
Just my opinion.
Gent's got talent big time.

Tony as far as your using the round elliptical.
I'll say a few things here to get you started.

Using both elliptical coils actually, you have Reactivty setting to Change recovery,,,but you also have some thing else,,raising frequency.
When you put that round HF coil to 54 kHz in a nail pit,,,and sweep around,,,then set to 14 or 28khz and listen.
Big, big difference.

The ground lights up in the highest frequency band.
Phenenomal what happens.

In one word,,,minesweeper in iron for coil size.
One nice thing about the HF coils,,,sure some nonferrous can be squeezed out with slow incremental hunting in nail pits using LF coils.
A lot of these same nonferrous finds made using LF coils,,, a whole lot easy to get a hold of tonally with HF coils.

I look forward to what you have to say about the round HF coil.

Cheers.

 

[CT Todd]

Really guys Geez,
My point was what do you notch out and how do you decide. But I've ruffled some feathers. By all means yes this is exactly what a forum is all about please please keep posting. Please

What silver are you talking about?
What denomination of coin are you looking for ? Just the big ones?
What about 3 cent silver What about 1/2 reales what about a cut Bit coin. What about foreign silver coins of weird sizes?
What about any coin next to iron in the ground which affects the TID of the target and drags the coin out of your assigned notch.
What about very thin or bent which totally blows TID and then the notch or whatever you try to do is off again ?

You can't notch just for Silver without terrible losses of all sorts of things that you would prize in your collection.

 

[squirrel1]

I have sites, where if I dug every signal,,I would be in just one site for 10 years, plus the site would be so dug up, would give metal detecting a very black eye.
Land owners would start shutting down.

Hence selective digging is the smartest approach.

Will some nice finds go undetected?
Sure.

But just how much can slaw, can, pull tabs, and other junk does one what to dig?

Now I don't spend all my time detecting such sites,,,Imdo have cleaner modern trash with older history sites.

Besides why didn't XP just give us 2 tones? And no meter?
They didn't and there are ways using Deus to try and take advantage and make it a bit easier on folks to hunt such sites.

Now, a person would be hard pressed to find a person inside the USA who has ran a Deus more hours than myself, I know a little about a Deus.
And yes a lot of the questions here may be boring to the other experieced Deus runners.

We must all remember as Deus users,,,,where we came from.
Even we were inexperienced with the detector at one time.

 

[squirrel1]

Tony notice that white strip on the one Deus unit?

I got this Deus in a trade, gent already had put this on the rod.
It is a cheat sheet for ID of targets.
I'll take a close up so you and others can see.

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[CT Todd]

I'm responding to the original question. I know why a person might do what you've mentioned. But thank you for the reminder. The same new guy your talking about may also not be aware of why he or she shouldn't be doing what you guys are talking about. I guess that would be yet another post.

 

[squirrel1]

Notice in my post above, I do comment on some nicer finds slipping by by doing.
So no confusion here on this issue.
All out in the open.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

Tony notice that white strip on the one Deus unit?

I got this Deus in a trade, gent already had put this on the rod.
It is a cheat sheet for ID of targets.
I'll take a close up so you and others can see.

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What do each abbreviated thing mean? Such as "SD" is that "Silver Dime"? I'm sure LC stands for Large Cent. What are some of the others?
P.S. I printed the image out.