choppadude
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Any body here use a open screen? (All Metal). Have been hearing some good things about open screen with TTF
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Any open screen users out there?
- Thread starter choppadude
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Detectorist
New member
I do! Use TTF or 4TF with an open screen and a small coil for the best seperation possible!
surfchunker
New member
open screen and TTF go hand in hand
choppadude
Active member
Thanks guys. Tried open screen and TTF today and here are the goodies
E-Trac-Ohio
Well-known member
I've been running in "Goes4ever's" 2TF program 95% of the time for about 5 years now - ( thousands of finds) - it's very close to a wide open screen.
The more open of a screen you run in - the less filtering ( work load ) the machine has - so the processor is able to send you target ID's faster.
Do a Google search if you like - you can find this program on his website.
Good Hunting !
The more open of a screen you run in - the less filtering ( work load ) the machine has - so the processor is able to send you target ID's faster.
Do a Google search if you like - you can find this program on his website.
Good Hunting !
EtracTom-AdirondacksNY
New member
I just bought the 6" EQ Excellerator coil for my Etrac. I have used TTF with the stock coil and a SEF 6"x8" coil but wanted a smaller coil I consider the 6x8 an eight inch sized coil a mid sized coil. I've read all Bryce's coil write-ups and have wanted the 6" EQ coil for a while so I finally sprung for one. I have hunted a few areas for over 2-3 years close by to my house like within a mile or less most are just down the stereet in both directions from my house. Now it time to go back with a small coil to see with different makes of detectors that I own what may still be hidden.
No one gets it all the first few times especially if all you use is the big coils and worry about depth. Most everyone is so worried about getting deep but I feel that most are missing out as most of my good finds aren't deeper than 6-8" here so far in the 85-90 ground reading mineralized soil conditions here so I leave GB at factory 90 on the detectors and most targets are co-located near to trash or iron hence the using the small coil and finding missed targets everyone one wonders how they missed before.
Now I did some thinking and go to the fence lines and tougher trashier spots instead of the open areas to try it out first and will try the open areas later. I ran either Relic pattern or OPEN screen with TTF and gain, volume, variability, and such at 29-30 threshold pitch at 15, threshold barely audible at 14 with Pro Gold headset. Auto +3 ,Trash High, Ground Difficult, Fast On pretty much like Goes settings. The Volume Gain is set High cause it makes deep targets sound loud and shallow so as not to miss them and in one of Bryce's articles he tested it out and if he didn't have it set to almost max would have missed no sound from a few really deepies down close to a foot and by lowering this setting to 28 or less got no target sound at all.
I don't care whether they are shallow or deep and it sounds less loud I just don't want to miss them so I run it at 29-30 and leave Deep off as it only helps with the ID and adds a filter. Fast on removes yet another filter and helps in trashy areas to process faster but the sound is a bit shorter or clipped yet still good to go, easy to hear them and not miss them.
I went along a chain link fence line where shrubs had been removed last year and I haven't hunted that spot in this park and starting up close facing the fence and scanning backwards then moving over and repeating this all down the fence line THEN going parallel WITH the fence line with it on my right shoulder (Remember to always in the same spot to GRID IT IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ALWAYS) I got a silver 1947 Rosie for my efforts in the iron grunts and it wasn't a clean good hit from any direction but the CO number was 43-45 and the FE number was in the mid to low 20's and to me as long as the CURSOR isn't along the bottom of the screen it's possiably a good target co located so I dig it.
The Ferous line is set at 17 for the tone change above good sound bellow down to 35 the iron grunt sound. This was what we wanted to see if we could change that and be able to set it to whatever we wanted like what Andy found that 25 was about right as he never found anything good under that line. This was incorporated into the CTX too bad it wasn't an update for the Etrac then we could do the combined pattern tone settings that are able to be run with 4 different tone bins horizontally across the screen and the low iron sound on the bottom of the screen like you can set up on the CTX .
If I run normal Conductive 50 tones and the coin discrimination pattern or another pattern to double check a target I go to the open screen and if the cursor dives into the bottom or bottom right corner of the screen into FE 30's it's junk. If it doesn't and it stays up in the middle area of the screen even if the FE number is in the low 20's I dig it.
No one gets it all the first few times especially if all you use is the big coils and worry about depth. Most everyone is so worried about getting deep but I feel that most are missing out as most of my good finds aren't deeper than 6-8" here so far in the 85-90 ground reading mineralized soil conditions here so I leave GB at factory 90 on the detectors and most targets are co-located near to trash or iron hence the using the small coil and finding missed targets everyone one wonders how they missed before.
Now I did some thinking and go to the fence lines and tougher trashier spots instead of the open areas to try it out first and will try the open areas later. I ran either Relic pattern or OPEN screen with TTF and gain, volume, variability, and such at 29-30 threshold pitch at 15, threshold barely audible at 14 with Pro Gold headset. Auto +3 ,Trash High, Ground Difficult, Fast On pretty much like Goes settings. The Volume Gain is set High cause it makes deep targets sound loud and shallow so as not to miss them and in one of Bryce's articles he tested it out and if he didn't have it set to almost max would have missed no sound from a few really deepies down close to a foot and by lowering this setting to 28 or less got no target sound at all.
I don't care whether they are shallow or deep and it sounds less loud I just don't want to miss them so I run it at 29-30 and leave Deep off as it only helps with the ID and adds a filter. Fast on removes yet another filter and helps in trashy areas to process faster but the sound is a bit shorter or clipped yet still good to go, easy to hear them and not miss them.
I went along a chain link fence line where shrubs had been removed last year and I haven't hunted that spot in this park and starting up close facing the fence and scanning backwards then moving over and repeating this all down the fence line THEN going parallel WITH the fence line with it on my right shoulder (Remember to always in the same spot to GRID IT IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ALWAYS) I got a silver 1947 Rosie for my efforts in the iron grunts and it wasn't a clean good hit from any direction but the CO number was 43-45 and the FE number was in the mid to low 20's and to me as long as the CURSOR isn't along the bottom of the screen it's possiably a good target co located so I dig it.
The Ferous line is set at 17 for the tone change above good sound bellow down to 35 the iron grunt sound. This was what we wanted to see if we could change that and be able to set it to whatever we wanted like what Andy found that 25 was about right as he never found anything good under that line. This was incorporated into the CTX too bad it wasn't an update for the Etrac then we could do the combined pattern tone settings that are able to be run with 4 different tone bins horizontally across the screen and the low iron sound on the bottom of the screen like you can set up on the CTX .
If I run normal Conductive 50 tones and the coin discrimination pattern or another pattern to double check a target I go to the open screen and if the cursor dives into the bottom or bottom right corner of the screen into FE 30's it's junk. If it doesn't and it stays up in the middle area of the screen even if the FE number is in the low 20's I dig it.
Been using TTF and either a totally open screen or the Relics disc pattern, as described in the sticky on this page. I'm still learning how to use my Etrac but so far the noise level of an open screen, even on manual sensitivity cranked up at or near 30, is NOTHING compared to my F70. People complaining about audio fatigue on an Etrac need to run a pre-dst Fisher machine for a while. 
That 6" eq2 is one heck of a coil.......... It would be nice to be able to move the breaking point in TTF from the 17 line to your choice. Haven't tried 4TF yet but I can see where that might help on some of those deepies when using Ferrous tones.
sidelined until it cools down some around here.........
sidelined until it cools down some around here.........
oneguy said:
Try MTF along with 4TF, i use both a lot in certain areas. They allow hunting more by tone and eliminates most stubby corroded nails spoofing silver tones when using MTC.
What takes some getting used to are the tones in the coin area.
Unlike MTC there won't be that famous silver squeak. All coins around the Ferrous 12 line will produce the same tone. For shallow to moderate deep coins a quick glance at the display ID will show the coin's conductive property. For deep coins usually with iffy indications, as always just got to dig them.
choppadude
Active member
kt said:Been using TTF and either a totally open screen or the Relics disc pattern, as described in the sticky on this page. I'm still learning how to use my Etrac but so far the noise level of an open screen, even on manual sensitivity cranked up at or near 30, is NOTHING compared to my F70. People complaining about audio fatigue on an Etrac need to run a pre-dst Fisher machine for a while.
Or an AT Pro in Pro Zero mode, NOISY!