another whatzit... a coin this time

[GRAY GHOST]

hello all, this copper coin was given to me by a friend, but am at a loss to know exactly what it is. i already know what your're thinking... that it's a machin's mill half penny or a nova eborac [new york] half penny. it is dateless, but the orientations of the obverse and reverse figures don't add up. similar pieces were made around 1787. i checked out the red book and have done some searches, but nothing yet. could it be a pattern piece? thanks, and hh,

 

[treasurefiend]

You got me....

 

[cwilk]

Without knowing the size (diameter) I would say it's British or British Empire. Penny or Half Penny or Farthing?

Chris

Or maybe not.

 

[dahut]

British Penny, I believe. That's Brittania herself, seated there on the reverse.
Just for the record, only the British have pennies... we have cents, derived from the French 'centime', or 1/100th. We wanted nothing to do with the British Sterling system back in the post revolution days, and so adopted the decimal system.