Another no audio ctx video

[sube]

https://youtu.be/Ti0_tw0mNyA Well only took 7 hours to get the vid processed ,
There's a few things to mention before watching the video some targets were hard to see because I had to watch the camera and my sweep was not on center also I found that there is a delay from switching from ferrous coin to pinpoint sizing a second or two so engage pinpoint sizing a foot or two away from target and sweep into the target this gives the machine time to change modes and the target trace response quicker .
You have to understand what the iron is doing to the signal any iron , when you here the grunt of the iron or high false this will be 3 to 6 inches away from the target as you continual the sweep you will hit the false on the other side of the coil grunt or high tone this is not where you build the target you build the target between the grunts . Where there is no audio if you swing to far from side to side you will hit the false which gives audio like I did but I was detecting blind because the camera blocked my vision . So the best way to build a target is to just shake or wiggly the detector over the no audio spot this well give you the most accurate reading .
I kept saying numbers which should of been target location on the screen east west hits have lower #s and locations on the screen than north south hits the north south hits give higher or almost true readings because the coil is seeing the thin part of the nail and not the long part this is why you cross sweep the target to see what it does north and south .

This is a great way to relic hunt just by seeing the nonferrous signals in pinpoint sizing with target trace enabled also for checking iffy signals that you get while hunting in you regular mode.

For high trash areas like fairgrounds and some areas in parks hunting in pinpoint sizing with target trace .

I also like to mention that I don't know what's all going on but I know what the detector is displaying on the screen since I started hunting with this a couple years back I would hunt in ferrous coin and target trace and only find a few of these targets a hunt , now with going just in pinpoint sizing with target trace I have been finding twice as many targets .

I will be making a infield hunt video later I tried but the screen glare was to bad this is to get you stared now instead of waiting for the other vid to come .

sube

 

[indy durtdigger]

Awesome video, if it isn't raining when I get off work tomorrow I'm gonna refresh my memory with this and go get some practical application.

 

[Chris(SoCenWI)]

I've been reading your posts for a while. I haven't had my CTX out for a couple of years but that will change. I had also played around with the target trace being able to see a coin under a nail in a East West orientation, but found it too hard to watch the screen and ended up digging lots of junk. Looks like you found a better method with pin point sizing. Hopefully some day Minelab or some one else can figure out how to get an audio response out of this.

I'm going to dig mine out of it's box and do some playing around.

Thanks for your work.

Chris

 

[amberjack]

you need a carama and and director like me i would make more vids but its a pain as you said.


good info though i been hunting in target trace pin pointing too but you are way in front of me working out how to manoeuvre the coil seems to be the key, what i noticed was when getting the trace on the coin to form it wasn't making that annoying noise with the 2 red dots at the bottom trying to hit the middle is that part of the way this works cause that noise is a real pain.

so yes not an easy question and harder for me to explain

maybe how do i build the red dot on a silver coin if its there with a nail etc.. without getting those 2 red dots at the bottom trying to come in to the middle and squealing like a stuck pig maybe that's a better way to put it

that noise drives me nuts and it seemed like when you were building a good trace on a coin it wasn't doing the red do thing at the bottom of the screen and squealing like it does.

recon i have said it 2 ways hope you get my question

thanks!!

AJ

 

[Bryan V]

Wow!
Thanks for taking the time to put that video together Sube!
That was a real eye opener for me.
I have been struggling with iron falsing and digging lots of nails in fear of missing
the occasional coin that comes with the nail.
I'm a visual learner and I now have a much better idea of what's going on with nails.
I have been running an ALMOST open screen with kind of a tadpole pattern but now
see the benefit to running wide open.
Still not going to be easy but should put me well on my to the next level.
Thanks again.
Greatly appreciated.
Bryan

 

[trojdor]

sube,

Excellent job, as usual. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make that.

It's so much easier to show it, than to try to explain it in (many) words.

mike

 

[sube]

you need a carama and and director like me i would make more vids but its a pain as you said.


good info though i been hunting in target trace pin pointing too but you are way in front of me working out how to manoeuvre the coil seems to be the key, what i noticed was when getting the trace on the coin to form it wasn't making that annoying noise with the 2 red dots at the bottom trying to hit the middle is that part of the way this works cause that noise is a real pain.

so yes not an easy question and harder for me to explain

maybe how do i build the red dot on a silver coin if its there with a nail etc.. without getting those 2 red dots at the bottom trying to come in to the middle and squealing like a stuck pig maybe that's a better way to put it

that noise drives me nuts and it seemed like when you were building a good trace on a coin it wasn't doing the red do thing at the bottom of the screen and squealing like it does.

recon i have said it 2 ways hope you get my question

thanks!!

AJ

Your trying to build a false that's the audio your hearing is the false on both sides of the coil with no audio you should be building a target between the falses silent area that's where the target is watch the video again and watch when I go to pinpoint sizing you can clearly hear where you should be building the target .

As for the camera I s@ck at it took 4 hours to just learn how to get the vid off gopro studio and send to you tube then 7 hours later it all downloads . But only processed 95 percent so I upload it again and 7 hours later it gives me a message and says duplicate it was already uploaded . WHAT @#$^%$$


Wow!
Thanks for taking the time to put that video together Sube!
That was a real eye opener for me.
I have been struggling with iron falsing and digging lots of nails in fear of missing
the occasional coin that comes with the nail.
I'm a visual learner and I now have a much better idea of what's going on with nails.
I have been running an ALMOST open screen with kind of a tadpole pattern but now
see the benefit to running wide open.
Still not going to be easy but should put me well on my to the next level.
Thanks again.
Greatly appreciated.
Bryan

Bryan you can use your disc pattern as much disc as you like I just used open screen because it was easier to see the screen . sube



I've been reading your posts for a while. I haven't had my CTX out for a couple of years but that will change. I had also played around with the target trace being able to see a coin under a nail in a East West orientation, but found it too hard to watch the screen and ended up digging lots of junk. Looks like you found a better method with pin point sizing. Hopefully some day Minelab or some one else can figure out how to get an audio response out of this.

I'm going to dig mine out of it's box and do some playing around.

Thanks for your work.

Chris

I hear you now I know where the trace is really is building instead of the incomplete target building in regular target trace good luck . sube


sube,

Excellent job, as usual. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make that.

It's so much easier to show it, than to try to explain it in (many) words.

mike


It would seem like that but learning how to do the camera stuff and all I think I could talk myself blue in the face with less effort . sube

 

[amberjack]

oh wow that's a lot of time thanks for the effort much appreciated from me , hope it doesn't take me that long to find those coins hiding under nails i will watch it again and probably a few more times, sure there are some hiding in my flogged out spots

thanks again for the effort doing this !!

AJ

 

[Bryan V]

["Bryan you can use your disc pattern as much disc as you like I just used open screen because it was easier to see the screen . sube"]

Ya thanks Sube.
I figured you could but for me it showed me how nails react and by using a wide open screen at least
in a Pattern 2 for checking targets I should be able to read what's under my coil much better.
For example I didn't know there was such a dead area directly over the nail and just how far it sounded off the ends of the nail.

As far as running discrimination while hunting I always fear I'm loosing depth even though I heard it supposedly
dosent affect depth and FBS detectors "thrive on discrimination"..
I just don't believe it.
Bryan

 

[sube]

Ya thanks Sube.
I figured you could but for me it showed me how nails react and by using a wide open screen at least
in a Pattern 2 for checking targets I should be able to read what's under my coil much better.
For example I didn't know there was such a dead area directly over the nail and just how far it sounded off the ends of the nail.

As far as running discrimination while hunting I always fear I'm loosing depth even though I heard it supposedly
doesn't affect depth and FIBS detectors "thrive on discrimination"..
I just don't believe it.
Bryan


Yea I here you most people would get a high tone false and then try to build that as a target but that's not where the target is then they would pinpoint it and would be dragged 3 to 6 inch away from where they got the good false . I'm still up in the air as to when to engage pinpoint sizing in target trace I know there's a delay in there but when I engaged it over the target it set itself to that target only and then when I continue to hunt left the spot it would be blaring like I was still on the false part of the signal so I had to reset it again seems to work if you engage it 2 feet off the ground and then detect . But pinpointing directly over the target it made the dead spot half the size or smaller and was easier to find the actual target . So I assume that when you go to pinpoint sizing over the target it's tuning itself to that spot only also the target took longer to build .

As far as disc it should be as deep as with no disc because most people are only discriminating out the iron. But if you get rid of the iron you don't know the location of the nail or what your going into with that said probably don't need to hear the iron if your hunting in pinpoint sizing locked because now your watching the screen all the time .If I was hunting normal open screen I would have a more open screen pattern just so I new where the iron was . so when I stopped to check a target in pinpoint sizing I would have a ideal of what's going on . sube

 

[gabbyhayes]

Thanx for the info!!
I've been struggling to learn my CTX and this sort of information has been invaluable.
This is the type of posts that I look forward to. I'm not interested in what people find.
I come to the forums to help me master my machine.
A very BIG THANK YOU for taking the time to create this video.

 

[amberjack]

yeah nice seeing finds but I agree Gabby I need info not show and tell unless its accompanied by at least settings to help me gauge something's to help me do better, people helped me when I first started out and still do.

if I post finds and I do from time to time I do my best to explain my settings and hunting strategy and for me its about giving back and well completing the circle, if I just want a pat on the back and then who am I helping only the patte gets anything out of that and some forums are like that and they make me want to vomit and well maybe people don't even feel the need to give something back?? maybe they detect for 100% personal gain and helping someone else is a forging concept ??

anyway I do like findmall I have my whinges and sometimes I am not happy about something but if I learn something from my disappointment I will share it and maybe that helps someone else and well it feels good to give back sometimes.

so in part I am having a whinge now and yeah I do take my own advice and take what I need and leave the rest, sure people read my posts and think I am bonkas sometimes but that's kool maybe some of my bonkeredness will rub off cause I recon we all need a screw lose to do this sport.



AJ