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Another large cent

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Whitetail

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Just found another large cent. I can see a bust on the coin and cannot really detect a date, nor can I see anything on the back. My question is should I try to clean this coin beyond the soap and water that I've tried to be able to detect a date and better detail or is that going to ruin the coin?
To put things into perspective..I have an 1819 already this year that I can read w/o doing anything to it. This coin I believe pre-dates even that one.
What is the best thing to do? Part of me thinks, it isn't as nice if I can't see the detail, but I've read things about that ruining the coin when you try to clean them.
Thanks for your advice....what would you do?
 
Check my results of cleaning an IH cent, its a recent post as of now in the same forum......http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1768504 NOTE: the last post if you scroll down shows an animated GIF(before/after), you have to click the image to see it animated. I used virgin olive oil overnight and the next day I held the still saturated coin in my palm and added a bit of baking soda and swirled it around on the coin to removed buildup. The soda does not react with copper like it does silver, it just adds tiny grit to aide in buildup removal. I won't add the before/after pics so I don't hijack your thread but check out the pics on my thread. If its as bad as you describe, NO offense to condition as its super old, then it may not have much market value to lose. But I guess it just depends on the date and variety. If its going into your own collecton then it comes down to what you prefer it to look like. I like to know the date and variety of my finds and market value is not important as they will NEVER be sold. My son will own them some day.

If you can't tell what it is, it cannot even be valued. So a bit more cleaning is almost certainly called for IMO.
 
Great find. A large cent is still on my list to find. HH, Nancy
 
great find! i dont think there are any of those in sw florida. i did go to mass. this summer and found a 1905 v nickel. i tried the foil and baking soda deal but it didnt work very well. i ended up using a metal polish and a dremel with a polishing attachment. it worked pretty good. the nickel was pretty worn so i wasnt to worried. congrats and good luck huntin!
 
Try some 3D whitening toothpaste. It's worked for me on some Indian heads.
 
With old nickels, we use a brass brush. Works great. Since they've been in the ground, you can't hurt them much more. HH, Nancy
 
I've determined that it isn't a large cent guys....It appears to be a 1700's bust dime. This is the type of figure I can see on the coin, but it is in very bad shape.
I'm only guessing.
 
I can barely make out the "LIBERTY" across the top and the date is unclear. I wish the coin came out of the ground better, but I'm just happy to have found it. I had a good weekend this past week. Went to a friends older home and they let me look around. Found about 12 wheats, 2 V Nickels(1899 and 1905), a silver german coin dated 1876, 1903 barber, 1889 indian, 1956 rosie & a no date buffalo nickel. Will try to post pic's later.
 
Isn't there a really big difference in size between a large cent and 1700's dime? Or was a dime back then really that big? Post pics of the coin and we can see what your seeing.
 
Yes, if you could post a picture of your find, we would love to see it. Thanks and HH, Nancy
 
Flowing Hair Large Cent(half cent faced the other direction), Guess based on the base of the bust line and the nose which still shows on your coin when viewed with an overlay and part of the cap near the bottom of the cap which still remains. Either click the image to see the overlay GIF since it will not animate until clicked or click the link below it that says Animated GIF.

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Animated GIF
 
Have you soaked it in 3 n One Oil? It can't hurt it since it's so bad. It might be able to bring a bit of the date and silhouette out more. I've used it with much success. HH, Nancy

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I haven't, but when I soaked it in olive oil, scrubbed it with some baking soda with little change....I tried electrolysis. This is where it stands now after that.
Don't know what to do when a coin is this bad. I wonder why some coins come out of the ground so nice and others so poor?
 
Its got to be the minerals in the ground or possibly the acidity. I've only found one LC, 1828, and it came out looking beautiful at least after rinsing in just water. Almost every wheat cent and pretty much all indians I find are plagued with harsh crust. How some older copper avoid that is beyond me. A short read on this site explains that some of the Liberty Cap Large Cents were struck on pre-existing tokens and since some took a boat ride to get here were exposed to sea water which quickly coroded them. I would feel safe in saying yours may have been on one of these boats, and even possibly had a previous life as a token! lol
http://libertycaplargecent.com/composition-and-specifications/
 
You're not going to get anything else out of that beautiful coin. Electrolysis does the best. It's still a mighty cool find! Congrats, Nancy
 
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