analyze

[starfur]

hy can anyone help me please with the analyze,my q is this
why arent the humps allways the same,sometimes they are different on the same target.
And it doesnt allways show the true size of a target in a 2 inch scale.
I do like this detector alot,i went from the xlt too this,and i am happy.
I guesse my main thing is how much can you depend on the analyze,and allso the % doesnt allways seem too be the same on the same target.

 

[Downdeep]

Every sweep you make over the target, no matter how much you may think it is the same...is slightly(or way) different. Size is judged by the sweep speed set up in your pro options. The "humps" will vary with how the detecting field contacts the target on each sweep. If you could do it exactly the same speed over the same exact spot each time, you would see much better consistancy.

 

[Larry (IL)]

Deepdown is right on. Keep in mind that analyze is just one of many tools to help you deside if your target is something you might want to dig. None of the tools are foolproof. I would suggest going by the audio, VDI, Signagraph and the Analyze Screen in that order when in doubt.

 

[tab-nabit]

Audio first for me - sometimes I'll dig by audio when the rest isn't consistent.
VDI, Signagraph, & Analyze - If and when I use them, I use then kind of all together instead of independently.
The "%" probability has at times given me a low % even when I dug a quarter and didn't find anything else in the hole.
It has to give me a good audio hit - the rest are interesting but don't determine my digging.

 

[Schultzie]

Why is the audio more reliable than any of the others? This pretty much applies to all detectors. If the audio is more dependable, why don't they improve options for the audio portion to make it rock solid?!

 

[Larry (IL)]

For those who hunt by sound, the audio IS rock solid. My ears are not that good anymore and I benefit from the tone ID feature more, but many "expert" hunters do not like the Tone ID and would prefer the standard audio. My other half, Nancy, is a great example with her MXT. She will often call me over to watch her dig a silver target after telling me "this one sounds sweet". She is more often right than wrong. I on the other hand don't really care if a target is silver or not before digging it, I will know soon enough when I dig it. The tone ID and other tools gives me a good idea if the target is something I want to dig or not. Another line of thought is that the audio is the last reliable "tool" to go when hunting deep targets.

 

[njgreg]

Am I one of the few people who think a target can be good with out it being a silver something?

 

[robertk]

Am I one of the few people who think a target can be good with out it being a silver something?

Nah, you're not the only one. I like the silver, too, but I'm just as happy with an old penny, nickel, bullet, or pretty much anything other than aluminum.

 

[BHNugget]

Am I one of the few people who think a target can be good with out it being a silver something?

You like gold too,huh?

 

[Schultzie]

Larry, I hear you about the ears not being what they used to be! I have the same problem and use Tone-ID also. I also turn off Modulation so as to hear deeper targets better. I did this on my DFX after reading Jeff Foster's book but I question does it cause a loss of depth? I understand what good is depth if you can't hear the faint targets anyway?! Thanks to everyone for your reply's.

 

[Rob (IL)]

Hi Schultzie, it would not affect the depth, the deep targets just won't sound softer. I've turned mine off. Don't you believe about Larry's ears. Rob

 

[Larry (IL)]

I think Rob is right, modulation shouldn't affect the depth, just the volume of the deep targets.

 

[TC-NM]

Hey Starfur,

The V3 is a great machine with lots of information thrown at you. I agree w/Larry, audio is going to be more consistent than your old analog meter (needle wavering) or digital read-out (numbers jumping around) detectors. When you get a good signal through your headphones on a target in all-metal or disc. and in pinpointing, chances are, it's going to be either a coin or a ring. Always check your VDI for higher conductivity in coins. If the sound is broken or sporadic, most likely thrash. . . unless its a coin on edge.

When I hunt with my V3 in coins exclusively, I hunt in GREEN. What I mean is that 2.5 kHz. (GREEN) is the lowest freq. of the 3. This freq. is most sensitive to coins, e.g., copper/silver and clad. I generally use two things: The Active Search watching the lower bar graph (signagraph) and the VDI. When it's giving me good numbers or when the bar graph (GREEN) is at the strongest or extreme right, I know its a good target. I then switch to Analyze Mode and watch the camel humps. If the green hump is at the highest of the 3, I DIG!

I have successfully dug some older coins including silver dimes and quarters using this method. Keep in mind, that I'm old school (started in '74) and I use my hearing first before I look down at the display.

Hope this helps,

TC-NM