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An old friend, the late Tom Dickey-the foremost authority on Civil War Projectiles was a notorious Park Hunter:csflag:

vlad

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And all the Rangers knew about Tom; if a Civil War Show came up in their area, that weekend-all personnel were out on extra duty, like
Tom could not afford to hunt any time he wanted? Heck even the locals did not like hunters in places-once hunting Island # 10 he came back
that morning to find all four tires on the car flat.:heh:
But he told me about going into Ft Jackson in Savannah one night with a couple of locals-parked at a boat launch & went in using a flat bottom.
Found a ton of shells and out before dawn. Well, Rangers come in that morning and see it dug up and its a red APB. Went through the whole
city asking questions and canvassed the hotels, trailer parks-but found nothing. An ad ran in the paper saying, if the items dug were returned,
no charges would be pressed. Tom was worried about someone talking later, and those two young kids facing a long time in jail. So he went in and agreed
to turn in the stuff-got arrested immediately-he said what about the ad in the paper; the Park said they knew nothing about any ad in any paper
promising anything!
Tom got a lawyer and ended up getting off-the long and short of it. The shells/case shot were still live and dangerous and he had removed them,
was the basis of it. If someone turns something like this in to authorities, police/Sheriff, it goes to EOD for destruction. Now his case was much
more involved than this and expensive [he could afford it] and I do not recommend his method-just a story from the 'old days. Tom passed away about '89.
[His little brother was James Dickey that wrote "Deliverance," and played the Sheriff in the movie adaptation.]
One other situation; Tom went into another Park at night by boat, and dug part of a magazine. He really filled up that boat-too much! About the time
he said, "don't untie the rope," the boat went under. They had to unload, and refloat-almost never got that motor started. :rofl:
 
vlad said:
.... Well, Rangers come in that morning and see it dug up ....

Vlad, whenever I read of someone getting caught for md'ing @ some place they shouldn't have been, the vast majority of times you can see it's avoidable. Silly precautions they failed to take. For example: this guy "Tom" apparently was leaving holes, marks etc.... Ie.: the visual evidence of "dug up", as you say.

Another time I read about a few guys busted for going into one of the CW battlefield sites at night. And here's how some late night passer-by patrol cruisers wised up to the fact that someone(s) were out in the park at night: The entrance leading in to the location was at the end of a long dead-end road. No houses or any reason for there to be cars out there at that time of night. So along comes a cruiser in the middle of the night on regular rounds of roads, and sees an "out of place" car parked at the "end of the road" where it dead ends into this particular park. Well DUH, the LEO puts 2 & 2 together, and reasons that someone(s) must be out in the woods there. So they set up a surveillance to watch for when anyone returns to this vehicle. Sure enough, an hour or two later, a few guys emerge from the woods, get into the vehicle, and drive off. The LEO's simply pull them over, see the detectors, etc.... Even before having read this, I already knew that ANYTIME you're detecting at night, you NEVER park "right next" to where you intend to go. Because a car out of place on a country road is most certainly an eye magnet for some passerby to wonder "why is this here?". So you're supposed to park way far away from your entry point, and walk extra distance. Doh! Also: you leave the detectors with your buddy, you return to the vehicle. You drive up for a mile, you drive back for a mile, to "test the waters". Because if it were true that you were being "staked out", they'd be not-too-far off to pull you over. And if you had nothing in your vehicle, you're golden. You just come back and get your buddy when everything is clear.

I'm not advocating night-sneaking any-place, but just pointing out that a lot of the dingbats who get into the news like this, if they had used an iota of common sense, could have seen there way around such embarrasments.
 
yeah the old fishing shooting tricks work with detecting also , not that I jump fences so wouldn't matter where I parked :rofl: getting to old for that sh$t :biggrin:

AJ
 
A friend, Pete from Virginia tells me that everyday at sundown, the CW continues to be fought. Ghosts, I asked, "no" he said, "people
with detectors heading out on CW Sites."
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Many years ago was hunting Pt Hudson with a friend, J.O. from S. Texas. Now he knew the area, and the guy that owned the land where we parked.
[and all the area where we were hunting?] Well we walk back into the woods and must have walked for 2 hours before getting
to where he wanted to be-crossed a lot of fences, most with cattle. Kind of a warm early Octember? Hunting a pasture and shell frags all
over, but dropped/fired bullets, buck, and buttons showing up. I get a good signal on my CZ, not that deep but the size & range, i.d.--could be
a plate/buckle. Eight inches down a damn Vienna Sausage can, probably from some MDer. Why didn't he carry it out!:veryangry:
Back to hunting..about an hour we walk to another pasture. First signal is a CS "I" button :clapping: Eagle buttons, 3 Ringers, Star Based.
Hit a small bullet like I've never seen, pistol and pointed. I went to ask him, he said, LeMat I think [I still have it.] Good place huh, he said? I was finding
stuff all over but he had walked off--then 15 minutes later I hear this sound and look up as he goes running past me. I look the other way, some farmer
on a tractor shaking his fist and coming as fast as he can travel. I take off and I see J.O. up ahead get to the fence, and jump it! I'm 38, and he has 15
years and 50+ pounds on me, and when I get to the fence........
When I catch up to him I said let me know next time that we are not considered "friendly." He said, you already been warned.The rest of that day I
kept looking over my shoulder expecting to see that farmer with a 'automatic shootgun' as they are called in Louisiana.
He got a signal later that turned out to be a 8" Mortar with thong holes--ever try digging something like that from close to 4ft with E-tools?
We must gave walked 4 miles getting out of there through woods carrying it--damn that thing was heavy!!! He'd carry it as long as he could then sell
it to me-I'd do the same....must have gotten sold about 6-7 times. Funny thing, years later at an Astro Hall Texas Weapons Collectors Gun Show,
I did buy it from him. But I didn't jump that damn fence!
Laissez les bon temps roulez:bouncy:
 
vlad said:
..... First signal is a CS "I" button :clapping: Eagle buttons, 3 Ringers, Star Based.
Hit a small bullet like I've never seen, pistol and pointed. I went to ask him, he said, LeMat I think [I still have it.] Good place huh, he said? I was finding
stuff all over .....:

Well Vlad, look at the bright side: You found some cool stuff :/
 
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Pete did a second edition in 1993, so its still available.
 
"He'd carry it as long as he could then sell
it to me-I'd do the same....must have gotten sold about 6-7 times."


That's some funny stuff ... :rofl:
 
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