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Aluminum/Gold question

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I'm attempting to find a friend's wedding band that was lost in a park field 7 years ago. This area is loaded with the aluminum bottle top covers that ring out at 12-03, 12-01, 13-03 area pretty consistently. Pull tabs are more like 12-15. So as I comb this area I started ignoring the 12-01 to 12-03 and the very left side indications. I still dig all 12-15. Is this a reasonable strategy? In other words, is it likely a typical gold ring would be in the xx-01 to xx-03 area?

Thanks again. Mike
 
I'm thinking a little higher than that you would still be okey, maybe 12.07 and up. I'll bet if you came up with a detailed description of the ring like average or above average weight and the carot someone on this forum could give you a very close reading to look for.

There might be a photo of the ring in a wedding album if they have one. Possibly a sales receipt could give you a weight size and carote.

I'm thinking 12.07 and up would be a very safe bet because I have one gold ring that is a very thin ladies ring, that came in at 12.08 . So good luck and have fun looking. Keep us updated on your quest. :wiggle:
 
I have 4 or 5 gold rings that rang in around 12:05. If the band is broken, as in was hit by a lawn mower at some point, it would read quite low and would not be a very solid target trace.
 
I have a collection of about 50 gold rings in varying sizes that I have found throughout the years. 90% of them register in the 12/04 to 12/23 range. For a quick sweep, I would discriminate anything 12/03 and below as well as 12/15. Then you can conduct a quick sweep of the area with a relatively high degree of probability.
 
I would use the other indicators you have on the 3030 . Use the 50 tone feature this way the machine assigns the tone the same each time. Gold never sounds like a pull tab! Pull tabs are made of several metals and you can hear them ramp up, while gold will be the same through out the swing.
You can also use the depth meter on targets and dig deeper ones first. But this could cause troubles as the ring could be in tangled in grass/weeds. The meter is really the last thing you should use after all the other items mentioned above. I know its the first to look at and this always sways you thoughts. Put a piece of cloth over it and make you choice on the other factors first then look to confirm your thoughts.

BCNJ
 
Thanks to all of you for the good advice!! I'll continue to look and at first discriminate the 12-03 and lower. Thanks also BCNJ. I might try some experimenting in the back yard with ring and bottle top to hear the difference, paying attention to the "ramp up" sound. It is interesting that almost all targets in the field I've searched for this are 3-4" deep. This is just under the sod. The ground is extremely hard underneath. The ring is a ladies wedding band; not very thick.

Thanks again, and I'll keep you posted how it goes; tonight I plan to go back (if I don't get too much flack from the home front). The way my friend explained, it seems there is a good chance it is still there. If the 11" doesn't find it, I'll go back with the 17".
 
I just found that the ring is 24 karat gold and not a complete circle. It is a small woman's split type ring. I misunderstood my friend thinking it was a wedding band. Mabe because it is split, it will act more similar to "nolanation" 's comment.
 
Your new info sure changes my advise. A 24 K split band could be tough. Still, I might try to find one similar in a jewelry store and see if they would let you wave it under your coil :shrug: That would give you something to go by.
 
Thinking that type of ring would read very low and be a rather weak signal compared to a mans average wedding band.
 
The split band alone will drop the conductivity value down into the low foil range - now only dig the 12/01 to the 12/05 target range! Its there for sure......
 
Thanks again! I clearer out a lot of aluminum,,,then got lazy, so will go back and check this. Will try this evening.
 
I found this 10k toe ring several years ago with the Excalibur. I placed it on sod and it came in mostly 12-03 but hit 13-03 a few times. It took a super slow swing to even read. I liken it to the sovereign wiggle. it would not read anything about 2inches! I used a stock coin mode and the silver mode. My beach mode read 12-03 aswell.
BCNJ
 
Tonight I spent another 3 hours re-covering the ground I covered Tues. Found lots of aluminum plastic bottle covers! About 40% finished covering the area. Today I noticed the "Ramp up" tone BCNJ mentioned for pull tabs. Lots of "blanking". Another question: when blanking occurs, is it necessary to resweep the area to get a definite signal?
 
If you are using the CTX on a women's thin ring with a split in it ... there is a high probability that it wouldn't find the ring even if you laid it directly on the coil. You'd be better served with another detector ... even an Ace 250 would be more sensitive. Low conductors aren't the CTX's strong suite.

Johnnyanglo
 
Johnnyanglo said:
If you are using the CTX on a women's thin ring with a split in it ... there is a high probability that it wouldn't find the ring even if you laid it directly on the coil. You'd be better served with another detector ... even an Ace 250 would be more sensitive. Low conductors aren't the CTX's strong suite.

Johnnyanglo
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Got to agree with Johnnyanglo's comments above.....IF indeed the ring is 24k, it would be like trying to find a small nugget, the CTX would not be my go to machine for nugget hunting....

Cliff
 
I agree with the above, Broken or split rings are tuff, being 7 years ago even adds to the probabilities. I hunt old beach's in the water and most of the rings are cracked in the back where the joint is, many I have dug with other targets not expecting a ring, maybe the best depth I can get with the Excalibur is 1 to 2 inch's, maybe. 24k, small ladies band is going to be right in the foil range you will have to dig all....to find. Good Luck.....
 
Johnnyanglo and Cliff might have something there, because I have scanned the entire area (25 yards x 40 yards), found a pile of aluminum but not the ring. I covered the area with slow swings and maybe 3 passes over the same spot before moving up. There are a few times I got a low "blip" that never returned.

During this exercise I was able to hear the difference between a pull tab and a bottle top cover. Recovered a penny, nickel, and dime and saw how those tones are definite without the "Ramp up" tone BCNJ mentioned. I still want to do what Larry mentioned and find a similar ring to see what it actually sounds like.

Thanks to all for the info!!
 
I just realized I was searching with "Low Trash" settings that comes with the stock "Beach Mode" (when actually there are many tones with each sweep). In this situation, do you think it would be worth covering the ground again using "high trash"?
 
What I meant to ask is what config. might give the best chance using the CTX-3030. I was using the stock "Beach" mode and going between Recovery Fast on and off.
 
Certainly cannot go by design, karat and weight! The balance of the alloys above the gold content is never a fixed portion or type. This ensures the TIDs will be all over the place. I have a couple hundred rings and there seems to be no patterns or common numbers based on similarities of the rings.
 
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