I have tried every new detector that comes out and I always come back to the Cz's as being one of the most user friendly detectors made. I seem to make good finds with all of the newest, greatest detectors, but as I am using them, I am comparing them to the Cz's that I used in the past. I always look at my finds to junk ratio and then I look at what I found. With the Cz's, I always dug less junk and more silver. I guess my journey to the holy ground is about over. When I look at all aspects of detecting, I seem to come back to a Cz. Built like a tank, DEEP, accurate, and easy to use. So what if they have been around since the early 90's. For the present, I am done looking. R.L.
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All In All, The Cz's Are Still One Of The Best!
- Thread starter RLOH
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christopher-ohio
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with a lifetime warranty that will hit a dime well over 12 +inches. My test 1882 $5 half eagle comes in at zinc penny (high tone) in enhanced. Shield nickels are correct too along with everything else...just got real lucky 
I just love how the machine sorts out midtone coins from the trash/junk...couldn't be any easier and fun for me...I almost feel like I'm cheating sometimes. I liked my X-terra 50 and 70's, CoinStrikes, Edges, and all the machine with numeric ID but I always dug WAY more good sounding trash with them compared to a CZ. Granted most of these machines can find coins that a CZ may miss due to target separation failure but I still like CZ's the best, even in heavy iron if it's well-tuned. I still love CZ-70's too but this one will ID even deeper in enhanced and almost eliminates the necessity of digging "everything above iron" for coins...but that is surely site dependent if you are a relic hunter which I am not. I just wish everyone could experience a well-tuned CZ-3D since I think opinions would be much different about them...JMHO...HH
Chris
I just love how the machine sorts out midtone coins from the trash/junk...couldn't be any easier and fun for me...I almost feel like I'm cheating sometimes. I liked my X-terra 50 and 70's, CoinStrikes, Edges, and all the machine with numeric ID but I always dug WAY more good sounding trash with them compared to a CZ. Granted most of these machines can find coins that a CZ may miss due to target separation failure but I still like CZ's the best, even in heavy iron if it's well-tuned. I still love CZ-70's too but this one will ID even deeper in enhanced and almost eliminates the necessity of digging "everything above iron" for coins...but that is surely site dependent if you are a relic hunter which I am not. I just wish everyone could experience a well-tuned CZ-3D since I think opinions would be much different about them...JMHO...HHChris
hi chris!
i truly am NOT being critical in any way,but i cant help but to ask..what constitutes a "well tuned" cz-3d?.i assumed thay ALL hunted the same way,and were designed to DO the same thing from detector to detector!..am i missing some thing here?..please advise!...;thanks!
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j.t.
i truly am NOT being critical in any way,but i cant help but to ask..what constitutes a "well tuned" cz-3d?.i assumed thay ALL hunted the same way,and were designed to DO the same thing from detector to detector!..am i missing some thing here?..please advise!...;thanks!
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christopher-ohio
Active member
j.t,
I have tried so many different CZ's and many of the same ones, especially CZ-70's and 3D's over the years to satisfy my curiosity regarding this complex CZ platform to see if they are all the same. For the most part, they hunt similar with regards to ID for the CZ-70's but the 3D's can be all over the place. Each CZ is hand tuned, not just a circuit board like a Minelab Explorer and many of the newer detectors out there. If you carefully analyze each CZ, each one is different in it;s own way although it may be only a slight performance difference between them or a lot with some I have found. I know that there are many out there who can elaborate much more on this but from my experience, the CZ-3D has by far the most substantial performance difference between machines particularly each serial number "run". Tom Dankowski has elaborated a bit on this on his website. I will tell you that the iron handling capability markedly varies with CZ's, especially with 3D's from my experience...Tom has also elaborated on specific proper CZ-3D and CZ-70 performance/tuning parameters which I'm sure many have already read.
Chris
I have tried so many different CZ's and many of the same ones, especially CZ-70's and 3D's over the years to satisfy my curiosity regarding this complex CZ platform to see if they are all the same. For the most part, they hunt similar with regards to ID for the CZ-70's but the 3D's can be all over the place. Each CZ is hand tuned, not just a circuit board like a Minelab Explorer and many of the newer detectors out there. If you carefully analyze each CZ, each one is different in it;s own way although it may be only a slight performance difference between them or a lot with some I have found. I know that there are many out there who can elaborate much more on this but from my experience, the CZ-3D has by far the most substantial performance difference between machines particularly each serial number "run". Tom Dankowski has elaborated a bit on this on his website. I will tell you that the iron handling capability markedly varies with CZ's, especially with 3D's from my experience...Tom has also elaborated on specific proper CZ-3D and CZ-70 performance/tuning parameters which I'm sure many have already read.
Chris
bigolhorns
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I agree.
My 3D is not of the serial numbers Tom mentioned,but it passes all the tests. I would have to say there are more good S/N's out there. Super deep and accurate. The F75 I had is gone because it did not come close to the 3D, Try this stack a bunch of nails close to a quarter, My 3D says coin, my F75 would not lock on. My 3D will pick a coin out of iron that I thought was impossible. Best machine I've owned and I've owned most. Did I say it's deep?? The 3D puts the fun back in detecting, you wouldn't believe what I'm finding in spots I have searched for 25 years. You learn to trust the 3D quickly.
My 3D is not of the serial numbers Tom mentioned,but it passes all the tests. I would have to say there are more good S/N's out there. Super deep and accurate. The F75 I had is gone because it did not come close to the 3D, Try this stack a bunch of nails close to a quarter, My 3D says coin, my F75 would not lock on. My 3D will pick a coin out of iron that I thought was impossible. Best machine I've owned and I've owned most. Did I say it's deep?? The 3D puts the fun back in detecting, you wouldn't believe what I'm finding in spots I have searched for 25 years. You learn to trust the 3D quickly.bigolhorns
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According to Tom: 1021xxxx & 1121xxxx
christopher-ohio
Active member
This is probably true with most brands out there...as long as the detector works right to performance specs that all you can ask for and all I really want...HH
Everett Cavanah
New member
The difference between the CZ-3D and the CZ-5 is the tuning and an added tone. I have a CZ-3D that I tuned like a CZ-5.
Everett Cavanah
New member
The CZ-3 can be tuned to work like the cz-5 and will work exactly like CZ-5. The 3D is tuned different to compensate for ground minerals on deep targets. The two units I won't do with-out is the CoinStrike and my CZs.
christopher-ohio
Active member
not as good. That was a generalization since some of the later machines have been found to be out of tune from specs-that's all...nothing like the coil or other problems on the f-machines Some just didn't hit old nickels and some other old coins right and needed to be recalibrated.
Some just didn't hit old nickels and some other old coins right and needed to be recalibrated.thanks chris!..wasn't aware of this,and if i wanted to purchase one,i guess it can really make a difference!..nasa tom also states on his web site that the cz-70 varies little from detector to detector,so go figure!..it's scary info though on the 3d,because as you are aware,fisher isn't exactly giving these detectors away!..if i understand this correctly,the NEW cz-3d's will NOT perform as well as the older cz-3d's that fall into that serial # range!....(w.t.f.!)
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christopher-ohio
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Yes, you can send it in for recalibration but how do you know if the person(s) doing it know what they are doing? What happened to the original Fisher techs from Los Banos?
Let me start off by saying I love my 3D..works wonderful, but it is not as good as some of them out there. I purchased a new one back in March 2007..it was defective. I received replacement unit and it air tested a dime at only 6",,,that one was replaced as well. To make this story as short as possible, it took a lot of phone calls and 3 more detectors to finally make me give up. I received my last and final 3D in June 2007. I also was in contact with many about getting the kind of depth on a dime and was determined to get the best one for my money. The final one I got and still use today had a letter with it from Dave Johnson and was said to be tuned to all standards and specs. Dave tuned it himself and my results....a zinc penny at 9 1/2" and a dime at 9". So be aware that a dime at 12" is not standard in any way according to all the hell I went through.
I have dug many of coins at 9" and never had a detector do that before but.....wish I could do better. Seems some of you know how to get a good 3D and the rest of us had to settle. Like anyone, I want my moneys worth and will always feel I got cheated. I love my 3D but a little voice keeps telling me it is just not up to power and I will always know that my detector is not tuned right. I can't afford to have several high end units so this is my main hunting machine. I have thought about trying to find a good one but can't see spending more money for something I should have gotten in the first place. And then what, sell someone a sub standard machine...sorry can't do that either. But stuck with this one and wishing I knew how to have one tuned right so I could walk as proud of some of the other users here. Just can't help but remembering that it took 3 months to get this one. If I knew it was as easy as finding the right serial #, this one would be gone.
Just know there are bad ones out there and some substandard ones that they will call "good enough".
Good luck to all and happy hunting.
I have dug many of coins at 9" and never had a detector do that before but.....wish I could do better. Seems some of you know how to get a good 3D and the rest of us had to settle. Like anyone, I want my moneys worth and will always feel I got cheated. I love my 3D but a little voice keeps telling me it is just not up to power and I will always know that my detector is not tuned right. I can't afford to have several high end units so this is my main hunting machine. I have thought about trying to find a good one but can't see spending more money for something I should have gotten in the first place. And then what, sell someone a sub standard machine...sorry can't do that either. But stuck with this one and wishing I knew how to have one tuned right so I could walk as proud of some of the other users here. Just can't help but remembering that it took 3 months to get this one. If I knew it was as easy as finding the right serial #, this one would be gone.
Just know there are bad ones out there and some substandard ones that they will call "good enough".
Good luck to all and happy hunting.
yeah and that isn't right!..(w.t.f!)..to sacrifice quality control on an expensive detector is "shameful" apparently they DON'T MIND taking the money though!..i guess if you want one that will work correctly you have to get mr johnson to attend to it personally?..what the hell is that?....go figure!
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