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Advice needed on small coils

Pyrites Pete

New member
I swing a GTI 2500 or an ACE250 and have come across several sports grounds that are full of pull tabs, bottle tops and COINS
I am using the PROformance 9.5 on the 2500 and the 6.5 x 9 on the ACE and find both coils to large for the job. Hence I need a smaller coil
My options are a 4.5" sniper or 5" x 10" DD for the GTI [ I will loose imaging] OR a 4.5:sniper for the ACE 250. Another option is the new 5"DD Excellerator from Kellyco [ I will loose imaging and depth]
Your thoughts please Pyrites Pete
 
I have the Ace with the 4.5" sniper coil. It is totally unbelievable. I can get right next to a pole with the HEEL of the coil-the electromagnetic field doesn't extend as far as at the tip. Lowering the sensitiivity to 2, I have almost TOUCHED a gym pole with the coil. And the depth is phenomenal for such a small coil. It is the only coil I use. I haven't found any other detector with the small coil that will duplicate this. I almost made a terrible mistake and sold my Ace before I got the sniper coil. Thank God I kept it. That's what I think of the sniper coil
 
Pete, Slingshot is right about the 4,5 sniper. I used this coil on my ace before but I also used the 5x10 with my 1500 and loved this set up as well. Both are great coils in trash although maybe the trash separation might be a little better with the 4,5 because it is a concentric coil. But I never compared them side by side.

Mick in Dubbo also uses the 5x10 and might even have the 4.5..

HH. Eric. Holland
 
Hi Pet.
Like Eric said, I use and love the 5x10 on my 1500. To date, it's the best detector coil combination that I've used. (had a yarn with Snowy on the phone a couple of hours ago, and he said that you do pretty good with your GTI.) The reason I like this coil is twofold. One is the terrific target separation you get with it. The imaging coil doesn't get close. The second reason, is the ability to tell our coins apart from other targets. $2 coins give half a tone when you whip the coil over it (after finding it at normal sweep speed) $1 coins give 3 quarters of a tone while screw caps always give a full tone, even when they are squashed! 50c pieces also give a full tone, yet a full silver florin gives 3 quarters of a tone. Pennies (these are the same as large cents for you US readers) give a full tone. I can't remember about 1 and 2 cent pieces, but assume that they wouldn't give a full tone.
The target separation with the 5x10 really came into it's own on New Years day last year. I took the 1500 armed with the 5x10 down to 3 parks on Sydney harbour foreshore. Got there at 6AM and went to 5:30 PM. There were many thousands of party gores in these parks, watching the fireworks display drinking and generally spending the whole night having a good time. As I arrived at this park, literally around 30% was covered in pure rubbish, up to my knees in height at many places, and you can imagine how many crown cap are in these parks as a result of these same parties going on for who knows how many years! There were times that that I could only use the coil to push the rubbish out of the way, due to the rubbish being so thick. The council workers did an amazing job of cleaning this up. It was clean before lunch! Despite hitting ridiculous amounts of crown caps, I rarely got fooled by them, even though at times, they were coming in at the same notches as our goldies. Coins gave a better cleaner signal. Set my personal record that day with $118 and a case of dehydration! (ran out of water and there were no taps etc.)
I've only ever used the Garrett 4.5 coil on the Ace I haven't hunted with it in open areas much so can't tell you much about that. Where it was really hot, was around play equipment. It's a coaxial coil (double shielded) which means, that when in pinpoint, it literally has NO signal above the coil, or to it's sides. I've found a $2 coin in real world conditions directly under metal frame work that literally went down to the level of the bark chips, and the coil WAS IN DIRECT contact with the metal above! You need to tilt the coil away when searching next to upright metal parts (holding the pinpoint button in of course). The downside is, there is no discrimination on the Ace when you do this. I don't know how it goes with the GTI, but I think that the discrimination still work when pinpointing on them.
The 5in DD coil sounds interesting.Don't know anything about it though. Looking forward to seeing how the DD coil works on the Ace. If it behaves like the 5x10 on the GTI, I'll be very impressed indeed., but that's another story.
Mick Evans.
 
I use the sniper on my ACE LOVE it

it stays on and i use the GTI1500 doe
bigger areas but iALWAYS havew the ACEready

Ron

Rangers Lead The WaY
 
:usaflag:I like the Sniper too, it will pick rings out of trash for me...but I have had better luck with my stock coil for silver coins.
 
Since I bought the sniper coil for my Ace 250. I've pretty much used it exclusively. Last week I decided to go back to the stock coil and go over my own backyard again. I can't use it. Kept it on for about 20 minutes and changed back to the Sniper. Besides, after using the Sniper the stock coil seems HEAVY.

MrGee
 
MrGee said:
Since I bought the sniper coil for my Ace 250. I've pretty much used it exclusively. Last week I decided to go back to the stock coil and go over my own backyard again. I can't use it. Kept it on for about 20 minutes and changed back to the Sniper. Besides, after using the Sniper the stock coil seems HEAVY.

MrGee
You catch on faster than me! I changed mine back and forth five times before I caught on.:surrender::crylol:
 
My favorite search coil for the GTI 2500 is the 5"x10"DD. Great target seperation and more ground coverage at depth compared to concentric coils. Yeah you lose imaging, but you can size up a target pretty well in pinpoint/all metal. I do use the imaging coils sometimes just for fun, but the 5"x10"DD is my favorite. In tot lots and really trashy areas I'll use my 5"DD Excellerator. It's great and blows away the 4.5"Scorcher for depth. The 4.5"Scorcher is a great coil, but since I got that 5"DD Excellerator, I haven't used that lil Scorcher. That Excellerator is HOT!
My wife uses the Sniper coil on her Ace 250 exclusively, and she kicks my tail almost everytime we go out swingin':twodetecting:.Happy Hunting!:)
 
Hi Folks,

Well there is a wealth of information here for me . I have decided to purchase 2 coils . The 5x10 DD for the GTI and the 4.5 sniper for the ACE .
Having trouble purchasing them as the sole Australian agent has shut up shop and gone overseas . Left the answering machine on saying he would be back in late Sept. I am tempted to buy from Kellyco . But he will not warranty anything not purchased from him
Thanks to all who replied Pyrites Pete
 
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