Adjusting gain and another button

[3RINGER]

Thanks to some tips from members about the Gain I worked the area where the staff button came to light the other day. This time I lowered the gain to 39 and worked up to 50. You can see the other dig holes in the first px, tip of my finger shows the staff location. All these targets were much more noticeable among the trash this time in the same spot I already swung over. ID was lowered to 5 to hear what was down there...the good tones were mixed in and would sound off with the junk...almost a blinded tone if that makes sense.

The staff reads 76-77 by itself and the eagle reads 60 but when they were in the ground numbers were all over. That tone mixed with all the iron is what makes you want to dig. Nails and bits were in every plug. On some targets I could hear a good tone in the ground...dig the plug and it would disappear, work with the pointer taking out iron and I would come across the target. Brass, buck ball, a drip, rivet and the eagle all because I went back and played with the gain. Got spanked twice with two triangle sickle blades...boy those things sound good.

thx guys for the tip...going back out in a few.

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Nice work!

Yeah 39 is the magic # for trash/nail pits IMHO. You're typically not looking for depth as much as you are surgical seperation.

HH,
Brian

 

[Patrick(MI)]

Nice digs.

 

[kaolinwasher]

thanks for sharing that

 

[bubbadirect]

Im going to have to try lowering the ID to 5 like you did. Can you really hear a difference between 5 and 10 or 20?

 

[3RINGER]

The main thing is that I want to hear all the targets. By working slow I can hear a good tone pop through and work at it better. Iron false tones IMO are harder to tell if ID filter is set high...you just hear the high tone. Then you waste time playing with it until you notice a grunt to the tone or just dig it.

On a different note, for someone hunting fairly clean dirt with a short time to hunt..I did this yesterday.

In my test garden I ran ID at 5, gain at 85 in 3tone. As I swept the coil I could hear iron around the coin...once over the coin a nice clean high tone.

I then raised ID to 65 and swept into my coin....no sound until over the coin, high tone clean.

Leaving the unit set this way I went over to my big iron target and got a high tone but it was more drug out and was not clean....lowered ID to 5 and could really hear the tone change.

I used the higher settings for a short hunt and pulled in a brass pc that has two hearts connected. 19 on the left and 53 on the right. Did I or could I have missed targets?....of course but I only had a short time and it paid off. Not for every hunt but good for those...I only have a short time.

 

[bubbadirect]

Dang 3Ringer. Now I'm wanting to try that method too! So many ways to experiment and learn the machine more, yet so little time.

Now I want to try to experiment turning dish from 10 down to 5. And then go back and have it turned up to 65, just to hear the differences and to see what was missed, if anything.

Or 2nd thought, maybe I should try it the other way around?
Or maybe try the 2 tone at 65 id mask and in 3 tone try the setting down to 5...

Any input?
Bubba

 

[3RINGER]

Yea try it the other way round. I knew I only had a few to hunt and that was the reason I want so high in the ID filter. Plus this was not what I would call a trashy spot. Couldn't see hunting like that on a regular basis...you would miss out on some great stuff.

Only used TT a few times so others could give better input on it. Did like how fast I could tell a shallow target vs one with depth. For the trashy spots I like three tone but after playing with TT some more I may change my mind, depends on what I see or should I say hear.

Maybe some one with more time with TT can chime in and tell us what they have seen on there end.

 

[3RINGER]

You done got me thinking. I'm going to see on my next off day. I'll go to TT, hit my iron targets and ID them out...they go from small nail up to flat sickle blade. That last one may be a bugger due to high toning. Then hit my coins. I'm thinking if someone wanted deeper coins or the like they could dig the soft tones...the high pitch squeakers would be shallow stuff.

Just a thought and may not work out at all lol but will be worth a shot for a short park or school hunt. Like I said, not played with TT much yet.

 

[Kevin B.]

Hi guys. I have been using my Racer set at the factory sdisc of 10. I am presently working on a spot that is in the woods and there is not alot of trash there. But I do get the occasional iron grunt. If I set my Disc to "0".......would this be advantageous? Thanks...kevin

 

[squirrel1]

Kevin,
My experiences show in higher level mineral dirt, an ID filter of 5 is deeper than 10. Actually Daniel TN did a video on a target in some high mineral dirt with small OOR coil. In 3 tone 95 gain ID filter 10 no signal, went to ID filter 5 and the target materialized, but one problem-- it read iron. Now in less mineralized ground the target may have had a better chance of coming through as nonferrous vs ferrous with the lower ID filter setting.

 

[3RINGER]

Kevin, I've seen materialized dirt do funny things for several detectors be it high or low end units when it comes to iron tone on a good target at depth. Some come out better than others. tnsharpshooter and I found this out while testing some units. The only ones that read it as a good target was his garrett atx and my blisstool v5. Like squirrel said, Daniel could could give more insight on what your looking for. He was saying he may be away for a while but a PM couldn't hurt.

I'm sure monte, steve or keith would be able to chime in with some good hands on info as well. I would be interest on this myself.

I ran a magnet along the hole afterwards and you can see the junk that came out. Could have got more if I kept it up. Target wasn't that deep at all.