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Ace 250 question

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Ron M 608

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I don't know if it is the way it is built or what but I have been noticing that when swinging if the coil hits a blade of grass that it will give me a coin signal and I try to get it again I will see the grass move when it beeps. Is there anything that I can do to try to stop this.
 
Well, since I don't know your settings, I would say try it at 4 bars sensitivity (a time-tested setting) and make sure the first 6" of the coil cable runs straight up the shaft and tape it there. Always remember when asking for advice to mention your settings-it'll help in getting more people to answer your plight.
 
Sorry. My settings are 2 bars from the top and in the jewelry mode. I will try to run my cable straight up for around 6" or so and see if that will help thank you.
 
Ron M 608 said:
Sorry. My settings are 2 bars from the top and in the jewelry mode. I will try to run my cable straight up for around 6" or so and see if that will help thank you.
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Yeah, six bars sensitivity is the factory setting and really sets the Ace on a sensitive edge,so to speak. It's fine for low mineral, low trash areas, but makes the Ace highly sensitive.
 
I'll have to try that 6 inch straight cable.
Saturday, I hit a local beach at low tide and plucked quite a few 200 lire coins and what was left of older alluminum coins. I was surprised how corroded a 1 Euro Italian coin was. At first I thought it was a way older coin...
By the way, it was very windy and the waves were making it seem like there wasn't a low tide at all...
I could barely hear the signals with the earphones...
 
Fabio said:
I'll have to try that 6 inch straight cable.
Saturday, I hit a local beach at low tide and plucked quite a few 200 lire coins and what was left of older alluminum coins. I was surprised how corroded a 1 Euro Italian coin was. At first I thought it was a way older coin...
By the way, it was very windy and the waves were making it seem like there wasn't a low tide at all...
I could barely hear the signals with the earphones...
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What settings do you put yours on for salt water? I live about 25 miles from the ocean so go down there often but wet sand gives me a lot of false beeps.
 
That happened alot with my Chinese MD. My ACE is surprisingly more accurate on beach gravel with salt water sitting just a couple inches below. I use full minus 2 notches on normal ground and full minus 3 notches on the beach. No false targets to report. Very precise readings, even the old original pulltabs are ringing double as I sway over them. Too bad there wasn't a trace of gold to be found...
I do still get quite a few jumping readings out in the fields. At first I thought it was because of low battery power, but that was not the case. The first reading would sound anywhere up higher to the right and then it would sink to ferrous during further sways, and stay there.
 
Either you are just passing over a piece of trash, or you have the sensitivity set to max. Set it at a max of 6 bars. Trash will usually give you a one way signal (iron targets). I don't know if you are new to the hobby or not, but will answer as though you are. One of the key things to listen for when you get a good tone, is to listen/look for a solid regular response. The TID notches are also very helpful in this regard. A target like a coin, because of its regular shape, will give you both a solid tone and usually solid notch reply. They can bounce around a little bit depending on the orientation of the coin in the ground, adjacent targets eta, but in the main, will lock onto a single notch.
Mick Evans.
 
When it's round like a coin, the pinpointer rings in very precise and a very short beep. When there's trash or something big, the beep is louder and longer.
 
slingshot said:
Well, since I don't know your settings, I would say try it at 4 bars sensitivity (a time-tested setting) and make sure the first 6" of the coil cable runs straight up the shaft and tape it there. Always remember when asking for advice to mention your settings-it'll help in getting more people to answer your plight.
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I went to a site yesterday and turned the sensitivity down to 4 bars and didn't have any more trouble. Thank you very much.
 
Ron M 608 said:
slingshot said:
Well, since I don't know your settings, I would say try it at 4 bars sensitivity (a time-tested setting) and make sure the first 6" of the coil cable runs straight up the shaft and tape it there. Always remember when asking for advice to mention your settings-it'll help in getting more people to answer your plight.
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I went to a site yesterday and turned the sensitivity down to 4 bars and didn't have any more trouble. Thank you very much.
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Glad it helped. It's probably a lot to do with mineralization. I found a quarter at 6" when I was testing and had it set at 6 bars-factory setting.Just on a hunch, I lowered the sensitivity to 4 bars as Mr. Bill-who recommended this overall setting- said, and the signal was clearer and smoother! I have found a few-very few-sites where I could turn it back up. I have found the best KEY to getting the max out of the Ace is the overlap. The 9" coil gives the illusion of plenty of sweep area and it's easy to not overlap enough. I use the smaller INNER coil as a sweep guide.
 
Good. The Ace is a well built machine. I am always surprised when I hear
people say they have a problem with it. Glad to hear your back in business
again. Check out the new edition of Garrett News Letter. It's amazing all the
great finds being made with the Ace250.
 
I think the real problem with people having problems is the belltone. I think a switch like some of the older detectors had would solve many problems-either a belltone or a quick high-pitched beep. Whenever the belltone gets mixed in with other-toned targets, it sounds like an annoying garbled mess and the sweep has to be slowed down in some cases to separate the signals. The detector is actually behaving like other tone-ID detectors, but the belltone is sort of a drawn-out affair and most users aren't used to these sounds. With the high-pitched quick tone, the Ace would sound quicker and easier to distinquish multiple targets. Also, the larger trash targets would have a quick clipped sound.
 
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