I have been using my Ace 250 for about 8 months now and although I really feel it an excellent machine, I am having difficulty with certain trash targets, especially, metal bottle tops, which register as dimes and give off a very coin like signal. I do realize that digging trash is part of MD'ing but I am getting more and more frustrated with these pesky trash targets. Is there any way to tweak the Ace to help discriminate these out without rejecting dimes?
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Ace 250 Question?
- Thread starter chuckciao
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MNCoinhunter
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I guess you could just notch out dimes and hope you still find them through other signals. It's worth a shot..This is a real problem, but with mine i get a little static with the bell tone, you have to really listen but i have cut down the digging of caps by about a third, this is not a 100% cure and you will loose some good targets but its up to you, dig them all or take a chance.
A good example of digging it all this weekend on the coast, with my infinium i got a signal for a hair pin, that broken sound that i have heard many times, but i doug it anyway and it turned out to be a nice silver neckless 20" long.
A good example of digging it all this weekend on the coast, with my infinium i got a signal for a hair pin, that broken sound that i have heard many times, but i doug it anyway and it turned out to be a nice silver neckless 20" long.
oakhunter27
New member
If it bounces dime quarter fifty cents and don't stay true usually a bottle cap
Mick in Dubbo
New member
Digger and Oakhunter gave some great tips. After carrying out some experiments yesterday, I found that if a steel bottle caps gives a good signal under the the center part of the coil (inside the area of the receive coil) once the target is fully outside that area, it will sound off as iron ie, under the transmit coil. Very much like it does off the tip of a DD coil.
Mick Evans.
Mick Evans.
Dick from IA
New member
One other thing I've noticed, over a bottle cap the depth indicator jumps around a lot. That, combined with static in the dime/qtr notches, helps me eliminate some bottle caps. BUT....curiousity often prevails & I dig anyway....ya never know 
Good tips here
Good tips here
I used to notch out stuff but now I learned that just because a signal reads a dime or something else it
ain't always so. I've been surprised way too many times so I dig everything. One of my last targets came in
as a penny but when I dug it I came up with an old lost cell phone. I suspect the coil was picking
up copper perhaps.
I have had signals that said it was a quarter and it turned out to be a small piece of tubing.
I know its a pain in the ^#$%@ to be digging everything but I know that all those signals I decided not to dig
might well have been decent targets.
I usually put the Ace in Coin and Jewelery mode. I suppose in a sense you can call that notching out. Just
depends on how you want to look at it.
Katz
ain't always so. I've been surprised way too many times so I dig everything. One of my last targets came in
as a penny but when I dug it I came up with an old lost cell phone. I suspect the coil was picking
up copper perhaps.
I have had signals that said it was a quarter and it turned out to be a small piece of tubing.
I know its a pain in the ^#$%@ to be digging everything but I know that all those signals I decided not to dig
might well have been decent targets.
I usually put the Ace in Coin and Jewelery mode. I suppose in a sense you can call that notching out. Just
depends on how you want to look at it.
Katz
tony (Orlando FL)
New member
Here is something you can try and it works for me no matter which tector I am using.
If the area is loaded with old iron specks or objects, and if they have been there quite a while they do seem to poison the ground to the point of giving your tector way out and strange target IDs and even off the wall depth guesstimates,
I do this without even thinking about it anymore, I stumbled on this procedure many yrs ago as have others.
Take your probe, screwdriver or shovel and pierce the ground at least once right in the area where you think the target is. Some folks simply stomp the ground hard with their heel a time or two and claim to get the same results.
Doing this breaks up the theoretical halo which has leached outward into the soil which is either detectable or does have the ability to mask the true identity of the target you may be hearing.
Once this halo or soil condition is broken or disturbed, chances are your target ID will be more accurate when rechecking it.
I have come to rely on this method in really old trashed places and it works really well.
Try it a few times, if it doesn't change anything for you on a few targets it probably wont as long as you are in that area, so you can stop trying this suggestion. It works best at the older sites with older iron that you may notice has been leaving rust marks in the hole or the plug you have just dug.
Give it a shot.
Later
Tony
If the area is loaded with old iron specks or objects, and if they have been there quite a while they do seem to poison the ground to the point of giving your tector way out and strange target IDs and even off the wall depth guesstimates,
I do this without even thinking about it anymore, I stumbled on this procedure many yrs ago as have others.
Take your probe, screwdriver or shovel and pierce the ground at least once right in the area where you think the target is. Some folks simply stomp the ground hard with their heel a time or two and claim to get the same results.
Doing this breaks up the theoretical halo which has leached outward into the soil which is either detectable or does have the ability to mask the true identity of the target you may be hearing.
Once this halo or soil condition is broken or disturbed, chances are your target ID will be more accurate when rechecking it.
I have come to rely on this method in really old trashed places and it works really well.
Try it a few times, if it doesn't change anything for you on a few targets it probably wont as long as you are in that area, so you can stop trying this suggestion. It works best at the older sites with older iron that you may notice has been leaving rust marks in the hole or the plug you have just dug.
Give it a shot.
Later
Tony
Uncle Willy
New member
n/t
Uncle Willy
New member
Possibly a dumb question but have you passed the coil over the unwanted target and pressed the Elimination button?
Bill
Bill
tony (Orlando FL)
New member
Good evening Bill,
I am not unwell thanks, doing quite good.
You got yourself banged up pretty good I see. Hope you are near total recovery.
Just checking out the most sane forum I know of and couldn't resist sharing a lil info which hopefully may be of some good use. I would like to add, that this technique also helps with targets that read one way in the ground and then completely different once the plug is up. It kinda smacks a lil sense into the ground before the item is dug.
Take it easy....
Tony
I am not unwell thanks, doing quite good.
You got yourself banged up pretty good I see. Hope you are near total recovery.
Just checking out the most sane forum I know of and couldn't resist sharing a lil info which hopefully may be of some good use. I would like to add, that this technique also helps with targets that read one way in the ground and then completely different once the plug is up. It kinda smacks a lil sense into the ground before the item is dug.
Take it easy....
Tony
Thanks to all of you that replied to my message. Your ideas are excellent and I will certainly try them on my next hunt. I would like to ask a final question that most of you have faced in the past. Would I be better served getting a more expensive detector?
Will a more expensive detector help to eliminate those trash targets? Although I love the Garrett detectors, I have my eye on the Minelab XTerra 705. Any ideas???
Will a more expensive detector help to eliminate those trash targets? Although I love the Garrett detectors, I have my eye on the Minelab XTerra 705. Any ideas???
Mick in Dubbo
New member
The X-terra's will behave in the same manner. What you have will do a god job. I have noticed that my Explorer does a fairly good job of ignoring the steel twist tops, but can get fooled. It is an issue that is common to most detectors.
Mick Evans.
Mick Evans.
Uncle Willy
New member
Hey bud every little bit is appreciated, Come see us more often and don't be a stranger and take care of yourself.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
Yeah that's the trouble with those buggers.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
You won't do any better with a more expensive machine than you do with the 250. Detectors can only do so much no matter what they cost.
Bill
Bill