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Ace 250 1st Use Advice

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SnowCajun

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We took our Ace 250's out today to a local park but things didn't go well. No matter which setting we had these things on it was like a orchestra of beeps going wild and running the scale. This would continue even if we picked up the detectors and tied to walk away, they'd be beeping in the air with the coils away from the ground and at chest level or higher. I checked everything, sensitivity levels, even reset the detector back to factory settings, between my girlfriend and I we were beeping more than New York City traffic at rush hour.

I've since read something about the coil cables being wrapped too tightly around the pole, is that really a possible problem? I know the end of the cable is plugged in tightly and screwed down snuggly? This was maddening to go through, detecting was impossible, any clues? I did notice the ground was really rocky and there were some big boulders around, I don't know if that was natural or there for decoration, and I thought possibly they were some sort of iron content or something, yet they weren't dark or reddish colored like rust, and the detectors didn't go off when run over them. Any suggestions would be appreciated, we just really had a bad first start here and I know this isn't how it's supposed to be.

Thanks,
SnowCajun
Spokane Valley, WA
 
How close were you to each other while detecting? Detectrors to close to each other will cross talk and drive you batty. You have to stay some distance apart.

Bill
 
make sure you don`t have the sensitivity all the way up or it will beep like crazy I usually have mine like 3 bars down from the max sens. setting
 
[quote Uncle Willy]How close were you to each other while detecting? Detectrors to close to each other will cross talk and drive you batty. You have to stay some distance apart.[/quote]

Batty I was .. lol .. oh at times 20 feet between us, sometimes closer but never more than 50 feet apart I'd say. Was that too close, I was never told about that being an issue?
 
Yeah I usually run mine at four. I discovered how sensitive this puppy is when I field tested it years back.

Bill
 
20 feet is a little close. 50 feet should be okay. I suspect you might have had your sensitivity to high. Also were there any power lines or electrical installations around close? This will play hell with detectors also.

Bill.
 
[quote Uncle Willy]20 feet is a little close. 50 feet should be okay. I suspect you might have had your sensitivity to high. Also were there any power lines or electrical installations around close? This will play hell with detectors also.[/quote]

I kept making the sensitivity less and less sensitive, but we were close by each other at that time. I'm sure it's pilot error here, I didn't know that this would be an issue, that's the first I'd heard of it! I didn't notice any power lines but that doesn't mean they weren't there, I'm old, lucky to see my feet much less power lines .. I'll double check on that. I'd never heard about detecting close together though, thanks for that input. We've planned our next trip to detect along a jogging path that's paved, but each of us walking along the opposite sides detecting in the grass, that would surely be less than 20 feet also so I definitely won't do it that way. We can start on opposite ends or something. So was there nothing to that post I read about the coil cable being wrapped too tightly around the detector pole?

SnowCajun
 
YEah you can actually wrap it to tight and put a strain on the connectors. One trick we all use is to run the cable straight up the shaft a foot or so and fasten it down with velcro, electrical ties, or whatever. Keeps it away from the coil and from flopping around any. Everytime it moves your coil picks it up. Try not to detect to close to each other and run your sensitivity at about four bars and see if that helps.

Bill
 
[quote Uncle Willy]YEah you can actually wrap it to tight and put a strain on the connectors. One trick we all use is to run the cable straight up the shaft a foot or so and fasten it down with velcro, electrical ties, or whatever. Keeps it away from the coil and from flopping around any. Everytime it moves your coil picks it up. Try not to detect to close to each other and run your sensitivity at about four bars and see if that helps.[/quote]

I'll do exactly that, thank you sir for your advice and experience.

SnowCajun
 
I was the one who sent the article about the cable. Just to make sure-and BTW-I'm going to run the first part of my cable like Bill suggested-but the upper end of my cable was wound so tight near the detector housing that each time I scanned the wag of the shaft would cause a pull on the connector. So, I just loosened it a turn or two to give it enough freedom. And, one thing I will never forget is the day I had my cell phone on. Those things will cause it to go batty at certain levels of sensitivity. Heck, if I leave my computer on at the house, and make a call on my cell phone-the computer starts making weird noises! Just a thought
 
Thanks for the tips, luckily I don't have cell phones, but I had never heard about running the detectors too close together, even the dealer didn't mention that. I fixed up my detectors last night as explained was best, I used some Velcro to keep the wire straight at the bottom and up off the coil, and it's loose at top too near the connection. Thanks for responding about your situation, I'd remembered seeing something in regards to that but wasn't sure exactly what it was.

SnowCajun
 
Yeah cell phone and detectors don't mix well. We have to remember that detectors are computerized electronic instruments and react as such.

Bill
 
Also if you wear steel toed shoes or work shoes with a steel shank in the sole or shoes with metal eyelets - your detector will let you know. Remember, the coil picks up top and bottom and from the sides

Bill
 
Hi SnowCajun,
Hey don't feel bad about it, just part of the learning curve.
If it's any consolation Eileen and myself have been diggin' for 18 months now, and still sometimes she gets a bit too close to me for comfort, even if she creeps up behind me I know she's there just by the sheer volume of beeps.
I'll put that down to my animal magnetism.:rofl:
I must say it really annoys me but I suppose that's what wives are for.:rofl::twodetecting:
 
[quote draaiorgel]Hi SnowCajun,
Hey don't feel bad about it, just part of the learning curve.
If it's any consolation Eileen and myself have been diggin' for 18 months now, and still sometimes she gets a bit too close to me for comfort, even if she creeps up behind me I know she's there just by the sheer volume of beeps.
I'll put that down to my animal magnetism.:rofl:
I must say it really annoys me but I suppose that's what wives are for.:rofl::twodetecting:[/quote]

Lol .. I could tell you horror stories about my first wife .. but I guess it's best not to go there, thank God she's an ex now! I must say, looking back on our first experience we thought the machines had gone crazy, or the ground was full of iron ore or something and we'd just not be able to use the detectors around there. The guy where we bought them never said a thing about that, maybe he just forgot, but you guys saved the day and set me straight and I appreciate that. It was wild for sure, there was definitely more beeping and noise than any big city at rush hour .. I'm sure we'll do better next time. I am a tad disappointed though, we bought these to do this together, now we're going to be forced apart to be able to do it .. lol. Oh well, I think we're gonna have fun anyway.

SnowCajun
 
Hey,
Got a good laugh at your answer, humour helps.
Half the fun is takin' breaks and comparin' finds.
Yeah you guys will get a lot of fun and satisfaction out of it, we do.
We always take a picnic basket with us and a huge flask cos by the end of each hunt we're knackered.
But it's still fun. HH SnowCajun and partner.:twodetecting:
 
Here's the good news! In your hunting, you'll come across some schools or parks that are HUGE and sometimes the swingsets,etc. are at opposite ends. One school that I love to search is at least 5 football fields in search area. Now if I had a partner who could start at the other end........I might be able to search that school in a day.
 
[quote slingshot]Here's the good news! In your hunting, you'll come across some schools or parks that are HUGE and sometimes the swingsets,etc. are at opposite ends. One school that I love to search is at least 5 football fields in search area. Now if I had a partner who could start at the other end........I might be able to search that school in a day.[/quote]

I realize what you guys are trying to tell me, but you're just being sneaky about it. If I'd have taken up metal detecting with my first wife we'd have had more reason to stay further apart then we did and maybe we'd still be married. Hah! NOT!

SnowCajun
 
Or one that has adjustable frequencies like most high end Garretts. There is also a gizmo you can buy called a "frequency shifter."

Bill
 
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