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About the grass area between the sidewalk and the street.. Check the laws where you live...

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Paul(NWO)

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In city and county where I live in Northwest Ohio it is the property owners. Some people refer to them as "right-of-ways". They are right-of-ways for governments and utilities not the general public. You should check with the city/county attorney not the cops or any other individual that doesn't have access to or hasreference to the laws of the land. If it is where you live as here you could be prosecuted for trespass. Our property goes to the middle of the street. If the "easement"/"right-of-way" were city/county property they would have to maintain it. Also, I know I don't want anyone messing with my property and I imagine you don't either. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. No, that isn't in the Bible. Jail isn't a pleasant place and Bubba may be looking for a girlfriend!
HH
 
I always checked before I dug. I even had friendly conversations with the police while MDing there. If people had nice grass there I would avoid that area. In Fl. the property markers were on the house side of the sidewalk. I helped a friend find his for him and it was 10 ft. from the sidewalk. When I live in Monroe, Mi. it was about 1 ft. from the sidewalk. I never could figure out why I was liable for keeping the grass mowed and the sidewalk shoveled when it wasn't on my property. I always tried to practice the golden rule and use common sense.
 
Out here they are called "Parkways" and are the property of the city. We had to get a permit to plant two trees on ours. They are wide open for detecting. Laws vary by state. Most things that are restricted in the Midwest and the East Coast are unrestricted out west.

Bill
 
That's consistent with what I thought the "truth" was. All this discussion will force me to look into it I suppose. As far as I know, the plat map and property description puts my deeded property line on the center line of the street, and that is what I am taxed on. One or more public easements provide for various agencies to construct and maintain street and pedestrian facilities, drainage and public utilities, etc. One way or another, you usually get to maintain the sidewalk and sewer, water and natural gas lines out to the curb, at least, and the "curb strip" as well. I'm pretty sure none of those easement conditions include an implied or specific right of random individual taxpayers to dig holes or remove property but I'll check the local interpretations. BTW, it is not unusual for surveyors to put convenience pins anywhere along a surveyed line. The plat map will show the extent of the (deeded) real property, and that might vary from one community or state to another.
 
[quote Uncle Willy]Out here they are called "Parkways" and are the property of the city. We had to get a permit to plant two trees on ours. They are wide open for detecting. Laws vary by state. Most things that are restricted in the Midwest and the East Coast are unrestricted out west.

Bill[/quote]YOu go Bill, that's why we still call it the "Wild West":super:
 
Not saying it's not so. You had to get a permit for the trees and the trees would interfere with their access to the "parkway". It doesn't mean that they own it as I'm sure they don't mow it but that they have the right to access it when needed. Like mineral rights. You can own the land and someone or something, a company, can own the rights to the minerals beneath your property. They then have the right to extract their minerals from under your property. With you having detected since or there abouts discovered dirt, it would be great if you could get the straight scoop from someone that deals with the law all the time such as the city or county attorney. You probably have forgot more than I will ever know about detecting and the guys that post here respect you. If you would check it would certainly give finality to the question.
HH
 
I'd tried to tell him that but he wants to be his own lawyer. A trip to City Hall would probably get all the RIGHT answers.
 
I checked years ago as I hunt parkways. I talked with a County Commissioner who had done me a favor or two. Talked with city employees, surveyors, and inspectors who build and maintain the streets. Checked with the city and county and the answer was the same. Here the city water meters are all located in the parkways.

The trees I planted now belong to the city. That's why permission and a permit are required as you are planting those trees on city property. We had to plant trees ( dogwoods ) that wouldn't grow up and interfere with the electric lines that run overhead. But if they should it will be the responsibilty of the public utility to trim them back - not mine.

I know one guy here that hunts nothing but parkways. I see him every once in awhile walking up and down one street after another and he does quite well. That's what I like about this part of the country - not a whole lot of rules and regulations against one's freedoms. Our ocean beaches are owned by the public so no building allowed and we have one of the most beautiful coast lines in the nation.

We have one beach here ( Gold Beach ) where in the 1800's prospectors from all over mined gold on the beach.

Bill
 
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. No, that isn't in the Bible.

I don't want to sound like little Mr. Bible answer man, but that IS in the Bible. It is Jesus' golden rule and it sums up the basic message of the entire New Testament, which is to love your neighbor as yourself.
 
[quote jeffatnip]Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. No, that isn't in the Bible.

I don't want to sound like little Mr. Bible answer man, but that IS in the Bible. It is Jesus' golden rule and it sums up the basic message of the entire New Testament, which is to love your neighbor as yourself.[/quote]I love my neighbor. And I love to find the stuff dropped in front of his house too:rofl:
 
So do you hunt parks? They are public property also:poke:
 
[quote awhitster]So do you hunt parks? They are public property also:poke:[/quote]

Seeing someone metal detecting in a park is not the same thing as opening your front door and seeing a stranger metal detecting on what appears to be your front lawn. If the house was an old one I would ask permission.
 
[quote Neil in West Jersey][quote awhitster]So do you hunt parks? They are public property also:poke:[/quote]

Seeing someone metal detecting in a park is not the same thing as opening your front door and seeing a stranger metal detecting on what appears to be your front lawn. If the house was an old one I would ask permission.[/quote]Just messing with you Neel, notice the :poke: in my post:stars:
 
I don't know why anyone would assume the parkway is part of their lawn. It certainly didn't come with the home when they purchased it or rented it. If that were the case parkways in the center of divided streets would be considered homeowner's property.

Bill
 
You've never met some of my neighbors. :rofl: I'm not into that " love thy neighbor gig." What if your neighbor was a serial killer. Would you feel the same?

Bill
 
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