A question about the 6x10DD coil sensitivity

[Topo]

Hi

I would like to know if is it normal for you to get small bird shot and air gun pellets while detecting with this coil? I did some tests at home and I'm really having a hard time getting those small targets

thanks!

 

[ExpIInut]

No problem with those sort of targets BUT the i.d given by the machine can be very poor on some of the slightly deeper ones - any target, and by that I do mean any, that will not lock on and jumps from ZERO to about 12/16 with both iron grunt and high tone is worth investigating if you have the time - you will also find with this machine that a good signal can turn into an iron tone once the target is out of the ground - when this happens I know I'm looking for something very small in the spoil heap - bit long winded but hope this helps - Gaz in UK.

 

[Topo]

No problem with those sort of targets BUT the i.d given by the machine can be very poor on some of the slightly deeper ones - any target, and by that I do mean any, that will not lock on and jumps from ZERO to about 12/16 with both iron grunt and high tone is worth investigating if you have the time - you will also find with this machine that a good signal can turn into an iron tone once the target is out of the ground - when this happens I know I'm looking for something very small in the spoil heap - bit long winded but hope this helps - Gaz in UK.

hi expllnut

I find CJ and Relic-alt help me a lot due to the threshold response, but still I think it should be able to get better signals from these small targets at less than an inch. I will try with another set of batteries

 

[ExpIInut]

What settings are you using and more importantly Where and What are you looking for

 

[Topo]

I normally use relic normal and alt mode, I'm hunting the woods now, looking mainly for coins, relics and jewellery if is any there.

 

[ExpIInut]

Sounds like the way I hunt - Relic - zero disc - trigger central - then set threshold so its smooth and stable I've found it doesn't matter how loud or quiet you have it - gb on track flick the trigger forward wind up the gain and put up with the noise.

 

[Topo]

Sounds like the way I hunt - Relic - zero disc - trigger central - then set threshold so its smooth and stable I've found it doesn't matter how loud or quiet you have it - gb on track flick the trigger forward wind up the gain and put up with the noise.

seems the same way I use it on Relic Alt, I normally set gain around +1 or +2, I like to get a stable threshold

 

[Larry (IL)]

The 6X10 will serve your needs well for that just don't expect the same depth as the 950 or D2. The 6X10 should have similar depth of a 6" coil with good separation but the coverage of a 10" coil, a specialty coil. Bird shot is often used as a test target for gold nuggets in prospecting mode. If you are expecting more sensitivity to smaller targets, you will have to go to a smaller coil like the 4X6.

 

[plidn1]

We have tested the 6 X 10 against the 5.3 with 2 different MXT's and found that it is an inferior coil. The 5.3 out performs it hands down in all but the most "HOT" of ground.
In the prospect mode, check your ground reading. If your ground reads under 80, the 5.3 will serve you much better.
It pin points like a rifle shot and will get you depth like you can't believe. More so then the 6 x 10.

 

[Topo]

The 6X10 will serve your needs well for that just don't expect the same depth as the 950 or D2. The 6X10 should have similar depth of a 6" coil with good separation but the coverage of a 10" coil, a specialty coil. Bird shot is often used as a test target for gold nuggets in prospecting mode. If you are expecting more sensitivity to smaller targets, you will have to go to a smaller coil like the 4X6.

I also like to do tests using birdshot as nuggets or small jewelry, that's why this called my attention, I may be missing cool things. Maybe the sharp shooter or the 5.3 is really the way to go in this case

We have tested the 6 X 10 against the 5.3 with 2 different MXT's and found that it is an inferior coil. The 5.3 out performs it hands down in all but the most "HOT" of ground.
In the prospect mode, check your ground reading. If your ground reads under 80, the 5.3 will serve you much better.
It pin points like a rifle shot and will get you depth like you can't believe. More so then the 6 x 10.

Thanks for sharing that test plidn1, I don't know if is only me but I see my lead finds with the 950 are superior than with my 6x10DD coil, these soils around here are mostly around 50's - 60's

 

[plidn1]

My soil in the area's I work are between 57 and 75.
The test area of the 6 x 10 was in the 70 + range. The 6 X 10 would only find targets up to 4 1/2 " while the 5.3 was finding targets in the 6 to 7" depth with both detectors in the same soccer field.
I use the 5.3 for 95% of my hunting. We were trying to find a little larger coil to use in place of the 5.3 for nugget shooting.
Needless to say, we had already had the best. The 5.3 is a 6 3/4" coil so you don't gain but very little coverage with the 6 X 10, but you lose the sensitivity and depth of the concentric.
This test was performed in C&J mode, at preset gain, which I always hunt at, and discrimination set between 1 and 2.

 

[Topo]

My soil in the area's I work are between 57 and 75.
The test area of the 6 x 10 was in the 70 + range. The 6 X 10 would only find targets up to 4 1/2 " while the 5.3 was finding targets in the 6 to 7" depth with both detectors in the same soccer field.
I use the 5.3 for 95% of my hunting. We were trying to find a little larger coil to use in place of the 5.3 for nugget shooting.
Needless to say, we had already had the best. The 5.3 is a 6 3/4" coil so you don't gain but very little coverage with the 6 X 10, but you lose the sensitivity and depth of the concentric.
This test was performed in C&J mode, at preset gain, which I always hunt at, and discrimination set between 1 and 2.

I guess that 5.3 should also make the MXT lighter, have you found nuggets with it?

 

[plidn1]

That was the first thing I noticed when I put the 6x10 on the detector. How much heaver it was over the 5.3.

I have not wanted to get out to the gold fields with it yet. I am finding way too much gold in the local parks to justify burning the gas to get to the gold country.
But I have found close to 300 rings with it along with many pendants and chains both gold and silver. Not all the rings were gold and silver. Maybe 1/2 of them.
I just found, in the last hour, a .9 gram 14 K pendant. Made my day.
You can believe me when I say it's whites secret weapon.

 

[Topo]

That was the first thing I noticed when I put the 6x10 on the detector. How much heaver it was over the 5.3.

I have not wanted to get out to the gold fields with it yet. I am finding way too much gold in the local parks to justify burning the gas to get to the gold country.
But I have found close to 300 rings with it along with many pendants and chains both gold and silver. Not all the rings were gold and silver. Maybe 1/2 of them.
I just found, in the last hour, a .9 gram 14 K pendant. Made my day.
You can believe me when I say it's whites secret weapon.

I see in your case that coil paid for itself. I've have read detectorists talking good things about that coil

 

[ga5150]

Just for learning sake, do you happen to remember how that pendant you just found rang up on your vdi? And were you at preset gain? and disc?

Thanks for the info!

That was the first thing I noticed when I put the 6x10 on the detector. How much heaver it was over the 5.3.

I have not wanted to get out to the gold fields with it yet. I am finding way too much gold in the local parks to justify burning the gas to get to the gold country.
But I have found close to 300 rings with it along with many pendants and chains both gold and silver. Not all the rings were gold and silver. Maybe 1/2 of them.
I just found, in the last hour, a .9 gram 14 K pendant. Made my day.
You can believe me when I say it's whites secret weapon.

 

[nevadamxt]

truthfully i have never been impressed with the 6x9-10 ? as far as i know the shape of the probe (magnetic part underground) is more knife shaped than a concentric coil and i will say it can seperate targets extremly well but has very limited depth .i have two of them and there both the same .i have never found anything over probably 4 " s deep at best with it but have come back with a 300 coil and found stuff at a much deeper depth .were kinda talking apples to oranges though i have never tried a 5.3 although i plan on getting one soon and a 950 ymmv

 

[Topo]

truthfully i have never been impressed with the 6x9-10 ? as far as i know the shape of the probe (magnetic part underground) is more knife shaped than a concentric coil and i will say it can seperate targets extremly well but has very limited depth .i have two of them and there both the same .i have never found anything over probably 4 " s deep at best with it but have come back with a 300 coil and found stuff at a much deeper depth .were kinda talking apples to oranges though i have never tried a 5.3 although i plan on getting one soon and a 950 ymmv

my deepest coin finds with the mxt have been with the 950 coil, dime sized coins at 8in. and nice iron relic deeper than that
but I have to say the 10x6 helped me to find coins the 950 missed. I didn't try the 5.3 coil yet