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A Little Infinium LS HELP Chasing Nuggets Please

Sierragold

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Hi,

I just purchased an Infinium LS and took it to my claim last weekend. I have found small pieces of gold while power sluicing so I thought to chase nuggets. I read the instruction manual and printed out about 5 general 'do this, do that' comments others have used about the detector from years ago....here's my problem.

We chased 5 Low-Hi tones to just get a feel for what it was finding....coat hanger...random pieces of rusted out metal.

We got our first Hi-Low tone and it was a sinker for fishing.
Next Hi-Low was a old can pull tap.
Hi-Low Cap to a egg bottle for fishing.
Hi-Low bottle cap
This went on and on....i dug up about 16 items from the sand bar and each was an old piece of junk.

I have my settings at 0 and 4 as recommended but I only found 2 rocks with quarts that both gave a very very faint Hi-Low.

What am I doing wrong? Is there a way after hitting a Hi-Low that I can change the knobs to discriminate more and weed out the junk. Do I have a faulty detector as Hi-Low was supposed to be gold.

Please help.

Thanks,

Eric
 
As a follow-up....I just purchased an 8 mono as there is very little ground noise. I guess like all metal detectors it picks up all non-ferous material... I was hoping that with all the new technology I could adjust the controls to better differentiate trash from gold since I am only chasing nuggets.
 
HI Eric.
I wish discrimination on any detector was cut and dried simple but it isn't.

It sounds like your Infinium is running fine no probs.

Very generally speaking, Infinium Lo/Hi tones will be iron &steel and a lot of rusty iron will often produce a Hi/Lo tone. Small Gold nuggets (0.1 gm to around 20 gm mostly will be Hi/Lo and beyond that the larger nuggs will mostly be Lo/HI depending on what other metals are in the nugget.
The main thing to remember with gold is that no matter what tone it gives in the Normal mode it will give a Hi/Lo tone in reverse discrimination.

So a simple rule is that you should always dig a target that produces a Hi/Lo tone in rev disc at a lower level than what it produced in normal mode.

Small gold nuggets will disc out in rev disc therefore ANY weak signal that discs out in rev disc should be uncovered enough to determine what tone it is in rev disc. If it is Hi/Lo then it Might be gold. ( but not always, Discrimination is not foolproof)

Silver often gives a Lo/Hi tone in normal and rev disc (some is Hi/Lo) at a reduced strength to what it gives in normal mode; ( A silver target does not reduce in strength as much as a similar sized gold nugg) So what you are looking for is a target that reduces in strength and or changes to Hi/Lo in rev disc if you want to find gold or silver.

When you use the Rev Disc to check for a tone change, always turn the control full clockwise.... and remember to reset it to zero before you continue detecting. Also whenever you re ground balance , make sure the disc is set to zero first.

Steel Bottle caps almost always give a Hi/Lo tone.
If you get a very strong Hi/Lo in Normal mode that discriminates out pretty much completely in reverse disc, then the odds are pretty good that it is a steel bottle cap. ( A strong signal from gold will not disc out completely in rev Disc) If you get a strong Lo/HI in normal that is still strong in rev disc then you are likely to have a coat hangar or tent peg or iron bolt/nut type of target.
Bobby pins are Hi/Lo and give a multiple signal tone change in one sweep direction as do small bits of steel wire.

Some rusty steel bottle caps can give a signal very like gold and you have no choice but to dig these signals.

Aluminium drink cans are mainly Lo/Hi tone in both normal and rev disc (but not always, so you might find yourself digging a few of these.

If you are searching mullock heaps looking for small gold tossed out from the lead below then I would sugest that you use the 8 inch mono or either of the two small double Ds. The mono is very sensitive and gets good depth. The small dds will find the same size gold as the small mono but at less depth.
Scan very slowly and listen for the quiet Hi/Los, donot bother with the Rev disc in this case and dig All targets.

I could go on forever about the Infinium but this will do for now.

PS.
Might be an idea to check those bits of qtz for gold as it takes a lot of mineralisation to get a response from the Infinium.
I have a piece of iron ore that a supper magnet will stick solid to and is very difficult to remove but my Infinium has no probs finding a 0.2 gm gold nug through it, the rock is 2.2 pounds and 1.5 inches thick
 
Every 500-700 holes I dig will be a nugget....be patient. You only dug 16...:thumbup:
 
Rule#1 while nugget hunting=No discrimination.
In other words-Dig everything.

Fisher's Ghost is very knowledgeable regarding the Infinium LS and nugget hunting. He certainly does offer some very good advice, but IMHO, when your lookin' for gold nuggets, dig every singal target. You never know, a piece of gold may have settled into the same spot that hunk of iron is. Use a magnet on your pick to remove all ferrous targets while diggin' so ya won't be chasin' around a tiny bit of iron. I'm sure that you already know that trick.

Anyway, yeah, in order to find gold nuggets you really need to dig every target because gold nuggets come in so many different shapes and sizes they will often have the same or similar conductivity(and therefore target signal) as an undesirable piece of trash/junk.

Feel free to ask for advice at anytime. Best of luck to ya!:biggrin:Happy Hunting!:)
 
bearkat4160 said:
Every 500-700 holes I dig will be a nugget....be patient. You only dug 16...:thumbup:

Five or seven hundred? For me it's more like every thousand (1000) or so targets that I dig winds up being a gold nugget!:wiggle:
Hey Alan! I been at this since the eighties and I'm still wonderin' when I'm gonna "Find an Ounce of Gold a Day!":rofl:

I need help!:crazy:
 
I can say without any doubt that I have found way more gold by digging, panning and sluicing than what I have found with a metal detector and I have been detecting since 61/62. ...But, it is out there, you just have to get the coil over it.
If I have learnt anything at all about gold and metal detectors it is that gold does not jump out of the ground at you and that almost all signals from gold are very very quiet and mellow tones, the type that a lot of people dismiss as ground noise or just a natural slight waver in the threshold tone.
Last but not least.. Never use discrimination if you are serious about finding gold.
I will always remember the one that my machine told me was a bit of deep iron and I walked away from it but it was nagging at my tiny brain so I went back and dug her up and found a tad over 2oz nug at just a bit less than a foot down in extreme ground. The mineralisation messed with the discriminator making it ID the nug as iron. I also know of a slightly over 2lb nug that barely produced a murmur; It was sitting edge on to the coil at approx 1.5 foot in slaty ground.
So the rule is simple; Dig all targets when looking for gold
 
This is really excellent advice! I found in a rock (shattered it) a piece of gold attached to quartz....its not very big but it got by blood rushing. I went back and worked the sand bar (size of a football field) and found nothing but junk. I did find 3 rocks that all gave a signal but i havent done anything with them.

I do have a question for you gold nugget chasers, do you tend to work banks....middle of the stream...or sand, rock bars? My river is REALLY high right now so I am forced to the bar...I love advice and I know the old saying "gold is where you find it" but without any real bedrock on my river its kind of hard to pinpoint a good location to really tackle.

thanks,

Eric
 
If you know there is gold in your river and it is high at the moment, then look at where the river slows significantly whether it be on the inside bends or at rock bars and reefs that run across the river or boulders and of fallen trees and logs in the river., anywhere where the river slows is worth a shot.
If the water is high then work the banks wherever you can get access. If you have a dredge then that is even better. If you cannot get to any likely spots in the river then look for rock bars and reefs and boulders that are extended out of the water up into the bank and try to dig down to bedrock near these.
I prefer to dig in the upstream side of any river obstruction but I know others who say they get good results from the downstream sides.

Something I used to do many moons ago was to place large pieces of close knit rug down into the sand on the inside bends of rivers and creeks and leave them there for a few months, pegged down with iron spikes and then remove them and wash out the gold that has become trapped. Worked very well when placed in a good spot.
 
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