Find's Treasure Forums

Welcome to Find's Treasure Forums, Guests!

You are viewing this forums as a guest which limits you to read only status.

Only registered members may post stories, questions, classifieds, reply to other posts, contact other members using built in messaging and use many other features found on these forums.

Why not register and join us today? It's free! (We don't share your email addresses with anyone.) We keep email addresses of our users to protect them and others from bad people posting things they shouldn't.

Click here to register!



Need Support Help?

Cannot log in?, click here to have new password emailed to you

Changed email? Forgot to update your account with new email address? Need assistance with something else?, click here to go to Find's Support Form and fill out the form.

A Little Birdie Told Me As Of Yesterday KellyCo Has Sixteen 12x10 BBS Coils Now In Stock. Must Have Got In Another Batch...

Critterhunter

New member
Because I'm pretty sure weren't people saying that last batch they got in a month or two ago was already sold out for some people? This was after the GT was discontinued and Kellyco decided to order more to see how fast they'd continue to sell for the Sovereign/Excalibur. If I remember right that batch was sold out from some references in this forum (memory serving?).

If so, then sounds like they got another batch in because as of yesterday at least the word is they have 16 in stock. So if you've been wanting one then better jump on it, because Kellyco is the only authorized US distributor of Detech coils with exclusive rights to sell them in our market. Their price is pretty darn good anyway and they've always treated me right.

Also, not sure if they still do the long standing special they've been doing for several years, but ask if they still give the "Findmall Special" where you get free shipping. I'd ask for JW to ask on that because he always seems in the know on things others might not be aware of there.
 
Anybody? Did I hear right that they have 16 Sov/Excal 12x10s in stock right now, and that I guess that would be a new batch then as I thought I heard a while back the first post-GT being canned batch had sold out. If anybody recently picked up a coil from them at least shoot me a PM to confirm that, or if you know this is a second batch? Just curious, because if it is that sits well with them ordering more, as they said if the first batch after the GT was canned sold fast enough they'd order more without requiring us to get groups of 10 together with set pre-orders to then have them have Detech ship them more.
 
Got mine today Fedex just delivered the 12X10 sef. Glad I got one before they sold out.
 
Jim, cool...that at least seems to confirm they have/had 16 in the past few days, but what I want to know now is if this is a second post-GT canned batch they ordered, or if it's the first batch after the GT was discontinued? If it's the first then bad news, because took a while to sell them, but if I remember right (?) people were saying when that batch arrived it sold out like in a week or two? Anybody here? If so, then good news= More probably will be ordered then and thus the second batch, but if not= bad news, because people will have to get in batches of ten pre-order groups to have them order more from over seas. That's what I'm trying to figure out here. Might do some digging a few months back in old threads to confirm or deny my recolections about that first post-GT batch selling out here...
 
Hey Jim, would love to hear your opinions of the 12x10 after comparing it in the field to others you've used. Same goes for anybody else who has picked one of these coils up. Said it before but I just love reading this sort of stuff. I've had some shoot me PMs with opinions of it but didn't want to say so in public, so if anybody cares only to do that then shoot me a PM about what you think. If you want to keep it private then that's the way it sits, or if you don't mind me stripping out your name to re-post it with your identity hidden then let me know. I just feel the more views, field reports, and so on of various coils by people gives others more diverse opinions to judge by rather than just relying on any one person (including me) for decision making of which they might want to try. Just the differences in soil or sand types can make one machine or coil a complete dud for some while others think it's the best thing since sliced bread...
 
I get this in PMs more often than not, so I'm re-posting it with the name scrubbed clean so it's kept private like. The topic at hand is harmless enough so figured it'd be of use here...

Name Withheld... said:
Critter, Do you know anyone that still has the 12 x 10 SEF coils for the SOVEREIGN GT in stock ?


The ONLY US outlet with exclusive rights to sell Detech coils is Kellyco, which I think has around 16 in stock (the Sovereign/Excalibur compatiable version) right now I guess, from what I hear. You might not be able to find it on their website so call and ask for JW, as he knows what they have in stock when others don't seem to many times. In other words, if somebody says they don't have it that might not be the case, because I've heard people say in the past that they thought something wasn't in stock when it really was. Even when these coils were new sometimes various versions for certain machines were very hard to find on their site without clicking on the right chain of links to navigate around things. Ask JW what's up. You can also shoot him a PM as he's here on Findmall to find out what the deal is. Probably far better to do it that way then bug him with phone calls, so I would suggest the PM method.

I'm still wondering if they do indeed (Jim?...you get yours from Kellyco?) have some in stock right now like I had heard, and also wondering if this is a second batch ordered since the GT was canned? If it was the first batch still then that's bad news, because they said based on how fast those sold they'd order more only if they sold quick enough, as they wanted to gauge how well they sold with the discontinued GT, as their policy is not to carry coils for machines no longer in production. With the Excalibur still being made though many like to swap coils on those which are coil compatible with all the Sovereigns too.

On the other hand, could have swore I remember reading people saying that first batch was sold out real soon after it was ordered a while back? Still hoping somebody can clarify all this. Otherwise they said if they didn't sell quick with the GT being canned then we'd have to get groups of 10 together to order any future coils through them from Detech. I'm really wanting to get my hands on a 13" Ultimate to replace my loaner but doubt there would be 10 people looking to pull together for a pre-order on those through Kellyco. Might have to find one used or via some other avenue...

PS- Not sure if they still do it, but for a long time they have been running the "Findmall Special" where you get free shipping on Detech coils. Ask somebody who should know if they still do that and see...
 
First, as a side note, Ron....I would love to see you use one of these coils to hear your opinion on it and how you think it does (or doesn't) enhance the operation and performance of your Sovereign. That's one field test report I'd LOVE to read even more so then I already do.

CONFIRMED! :hot: Just was told Kellyco does indeed have another batch of 12x10s for the Sovereign/Excalibur that just came in very recently! About a week or so ago I was told by somebody they had 16 in stock. Not sure how many they have right at this moment so if you want one better jump on it! I'm telling you, at least to me in my soil, it was like strapping a turbo charger on my GT by enhancing all aspects of performance, and even feels like the machine has been sped up due to the sharper DD line providing faster or more "distinct" reaction between targets when working heavy trash.

So then I'd assume here that first batched ordered after the GT was canned sold quick like I though I remembered, and thus they ordered another batch in. If this batch goes fast I would think that would mean they'll order yet another batch after that maybe.

Without getting specific, here's what I'll relate- In a few years of head to head comparisons with my fellow circle of hunters and there other flagship silver killing machines (to me the GT is a flagship detector as well in it's own right), we've checked numerous undug targets before digging that each other has found. Not once, due to being super deep, badly masked, on edge, or combinations of all of these things, has the GT and 12x10 not been able to see these coins just as well, and that's compared to "best" settings with only very minimal small iron rejection being set up on those machines, where as the GT has all that built in iron rejection.

The sharper DD line of the 12x10 I think makes the GT more able to "see" and "not see" the coin versus the iron masking it, and so why it feels like the reaction if faster between them when sniffing stuff out. The stock 10" Tornado is great at this too, but the 12x10 seems even more "effortless" at such things. And, terms of depth goes, no difference seen thus far between those other flagship units and the GT/12x10.

One other comparison comes to mind that sticks out in my mind- Had a friend call me over to check out what he suspected was a deep silver. As is the norm sometimes, we'd both work our way around that signal and then compare notes on which way it hit well and what angles were nulls or iffy or such. Always the same for both of us.

Anyway, this particular signal gave a good coin hit, but only from one very tight angle for both of us. Circling the target, it would null out from some angles and only give very iffy coin hits from others. So what was it? Turns out it was a deep silver dime, standing nearly on end, and right up against some very nearby iron. All three worst trail factors for the GT/12x10 to have to overcome. Not a dime's worth of difference in how each machine saw that coin.

I feel the 12x10 takes the Sovereign into the next decade of performance in detectors (IMO...in my soil), so long as something doesn't come along that re-writes the whole rule book on the limits of the kind of technology all detectors are currently based on IE: Only so much you can do unless the very nature of sensing technology used to find metal is changed to something else other than VLF and detection fields. This coil seems to push that last little bit out of what you can squeeze from current detector technology, where the GT in stock form had already pretty much pushed that envelope right near the edge of "impossible to go any further than this", so to speak...

So bottom line....If you've been thinking of getting one of these coils, better hop on it before the current stock dries up. If it does quick then chances are I would think they'll order more, but having used this coil I'll tell you I wouldn't want to risk being without it. I'd swim to the UK if I had to to get another one...:biggrin:

Remember though, as with all things in life, just because some like a coil or machine and have had great luck and outstanding performance with it, doesn't mean it'll do the same in your soil. I've had this happen to me and wasted a lot of money over the years, buying machines others raved about in their soil that wouldn't penetrate or get stability in my minerals.

Usually those were single frequency machines beyond about 8khz, where my soil and sands just don't seem to care for that. By the time I lowered sensitivity enough to get such machines stable I bought, the depth was pretty darn useless to me at sites that have been worked hard by others. Same deal might happen with coils, or even just your particular hearing tastes makes you not prefer the audio report of this coil with it's "crisper more treble like" response that I tend to like with my hearing to dissect targets.

Just like using a favorite fishing lure, even when another type might be the better choice for the given situation, if you don't have confidence in what you're using then far better to stick with what you do have that extra feeling of confidence with, because chances are that alone will mean you'll do far better with it.

But as a whole, I'd say in all my surfing/reading over the last few years, the vast majority of both FBS and BBS owners who got this coil think it's fantastic, with increased abilities of depth, separation, and stability in EMI or minerals. That doesn't mean it's going to be the case for you though...

PS- Kellyco no longer is doing the Findmall special, at least for this coil on our machine. So don't bother asking about that. Just found that out too...
 
Hi Critterhunter. My name is Aaron. First post here on Findmall. I bought my first detector (Sov XS 2 pro) from my Dad about a year ago and have been wanting to try the 12x10 sef. I just have the original 8" coil that I have been running along with Ron' meter. I am originally from Texas but moved to Indiana about 6 years when the company I work for moved here about 15 minutes Northeast of Indianapolis. Anyhow, I saw your post about Kellyco getting the batch of coils in. So I called JW this morning and ordered one. As of this morning JW said he had 14 coils left minus the one I purchased. Not sure if it is out of the first or second batch though. Unfortunately he said they stopped the "Findmall special" a few months back. Oh well at least I got one before they were gone. Can't wait to hit the local park with it. So far I've only pulled a lot of clad and a couple of wheats. Hoping to add silver to that this year. Sorry don't mean to ramble on just wanted to introduce myself and say thanks letting folks know about the coils. I enjoy reading your posts as well as the other veterans. Keep em coming.

Lostexan
 
Welcome, and good luck with that coil. Please either post about your hunts with it and how you like (or don't like) it down the road, or just shoot me a PM with your opinion if you don't care to share in public. Always love to hear others thoughts on coils or machines for them.

From what I was just told this is indeed a second batch after the GT was canned, becaused this person told me they just recently got this batch in stock. That confirms what I thought I remember about others saying that first post-GT batch sold out pretty quick (if memory serves here). Also, like you said, I noted in the above post that they no longer offer the free shipping Findmall special.

Anyway, welcome again to the forum, and please share your experiences either privately or publicly with your Sovereign, as well as with various coils you use with it.

And, hey, oh yea...No, I don't get a royalty from Kellyco if anybody is thinking that. :biggrin: I just love this coil and feel if others had one on their Sovereign (IF it performs for them like it has for me in my soil), then they'd probably find out that there is no need to look beyond the Sovereign for something "better" in this day and age...Yet anyway. Even in stock configuration, using the 10" Tornado, the Sovereign will hold it's own with the best of other machines IMO. At least in my soil, contrasted to all I've owned or done head to heads with in the field, I see no need to move on myself, and even if I did I'd do it with a heavy heart leaving that long detailed audio yet with the numerous tone alerts of a Minelab, along with the low hassle stability and raw depth in my soils or sands, like I've never experienced before. She's a hassle free machine with her analog dials and switches, although as somebody a long time ago said- Under the hood it's a digital wonderland...:beers:
 
Top