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A few observations on G2 depth from this past week

sekypaleo

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Heh guys, Well after one year with with the G2, I feel like I know this detector like the back of my hand. It amazes me how well kept of a secret this bugger is. As I have stated in several posts, this is hands down the BEST detector I have ever used for relic hunting. This is compared to the following machines I have used:
Tek Omega
Tek Gamma
Tek T2 SE
Fisher CZ-5 (extensive use)
Tesoro's...Sidewinder, and Vaquero
White's Spectrum
Fisher 1266
Minelab Sovereign
Minelab Explorer (limited use)

The biggest knock I hear about the G2 is that it does not get good depth. Well here are 2 examples from this past week:
My hunting partner and I were hunting a CW site in Tenn that we have pounded over the past 2 years. The ground, although mild in mineralization (GB at 55) was bone dry and rock hard. I got a very soft faint signal that 3/4's of the sweeps would give the high tone with numbers bouncing from 60's into 80's and 1/4 of the sweep's would register in ferrous range (below 40). BTW I always run my disc at 40 so I can hear EVERYTHING...why, in just a minute. I have found that when about 3/4 of sweeps are low tone and 1/4 are high tone it is almost always iron. But when it goes the other way percentage wise...it's a good deep target.....the key is the tones are faint. Anyways, I called my buddy over who was hunting with his Tesoro Vaquero supertuned and let him listen to my G2 on the target...I told him "this is a good relic". He swung his Tesoro across it and was getting only an intermittant crackling signal. He told me "I would never dig a signal like this" It was an eagle cuff button back at 5". Remember ground was super dry and hard.
Two days later after a heavy rain, I was hunting a woods CW site where the ground is kinda bad (GB at 73). I was going really slow and received the faintest signal you could ever get and still be an audible signal. but here is the kicker...it was repeatable back and forth but reading as iron. Now it has been my experience that iron signals, even deep, are fairly loud due to halo. This signal was super faint and only giving low ferrous tones and TID's. I decided to investigate it, as last year I dug 2 69 cal round bals not more than 2 feet away. I cleared about 2" of earth off and re-swept....now it came in with soft faint high tone. It was an Enfield bullet at 8" standing straight up and down in heavy minerialized ground. Hope this helps everybody. Bill
 
Did you have the 5" coil or the 11" 8" is very good depth my ground balances at 85 most of the time , congradulations on the exiting find , your chances of hitting a gold coins are very good as well ,
 
Bill
Great post and a some great finds that kind of know how will help me !!
thanks Gary
 
Did you try all metal ???
 
Great posting
 
Good info thanks for sharing.:thumbup:

The G2 is sneaky deep. Every time I hear one of those soft whisper high tones, it puts a big smile on my face.

tabman
 
Same here buddy...that sound is always something good and deep. Looks like Bubba pulled up one of my old posts....this was before putting the Ultimate coil on it which took its performance to a whole new level
 
Yep Bill the best relic machine I've ever used. Buttons buttons & more buttons not to say it won't find coins either. It likes lead also. Its pretty much bullet proof to emi. I've had areas whelre I had to turn down the sensitivety under power lines. It would be great if the next generation was emune to that. It would open up some great spots. Its all evolving it never stops.
 
Hey Bill! What settings have you changed more now, since using the ultimate coil vs when you posted this originally? Like all metal mode vs disc, etc. I know the vdi numbers will read differently for sure, but wonder how your experience from using the machine is better now. (good for me to read and learn from your postings from the past, as I am still learning so much from you and others here)

Thanks buddy,
Bubba

sekypaleo said:
Same here buddy...that sound is always something good and deep. Looks like Bubba pulled up one of my old posts....this was before putting the Ultimate coil on it which took its performance to a whole new level
 
One thing I found from the get- go is that the Ultimate coil will GB about 15 points lower in the same ground than the stock 11" coil.
 
Also thr other thing I noticed with thr ultimate coil, in all metal mode ONLY, is that there seemed to be a delay in where the target actually was. Weird. But in disc mode, it was right on the money
 
sekypaleo said:
Heh guys, Well after one year with with the G2, I feel like I know this detector like the back of my hand. It amazes me how well kept of a secret this bugger is. As I have stated in several posts, this is hands down the BEST detector I have ever used for relic hunting. This is compared to the following machines I have used:
Tek Omega
Tek Gamma
Tek T2 SE
Fisher CZ-5 (extensive use)
Tesoro's...Sidewinder, and Vaquero
White's Spectrum
Fisher 1266
Minelab Sovereign
Minelab Explorer (limited use)

The biggest knock I hear about the G2 is that it does not get good depth. Well here are 2 examples from this past week:
My hunting partner and I were hunting a CW site in Tenn that we have pounded over the past 2 years. The ground, although mild in mineralization (GB at 55) was bone dry and rock hard. I got a very soft faint signal that 3/4's of the sweeps would give the high tone with numbers bouncing from 60's into 80's and 1/4 of the sweep's would register in ferrous range (below 40). BTW I always run my disc at 40 so I can hear EVERYTHING...why, in just a minute. I have found that when about 3/4 of sweeps are low tone and 1/4 are high tone it is almost always iron. But when it goes the other way percentage wise...it's a good deep target.....the key is the tones are faint. Anyways, I called my buddy over who was hunting with his Tesoro Vaquero supertuned and let him listen to my G2 on the target...I told him "this is a good relic". He swung his Tesoro across it and was getting only an intermittant crackling signal. He told me "I would never dig a signal like this" It was an eagle cuff button back at 5". Remember ground was super dry and hard.
Two days later after a heavy rain, I was hunting a woods CW site where the ground is kinda bad (GB at 73). I was going really slow and received the faintest signal you could ever get and still be an audible signal. but here is the kicker...it was repeatable back and forth but reading as iron. Now it has been my experience that iron signals, even deep, are fairly loud due to halo. This signal was super faint and only giving low ferrous tones and TID's. I decided to investigate it, as last year I dug 2 69 cal round bals not more than 2 feet away. I cleared about 2" of earth off and re-swept....now it came in with soft faint high tone. It was an Enfield bullet at 8" standing straight up and down in heavy minerialized ground. Hope this helps everybody. Bill

Bill, I'm so glad I read and then reread this posting. I see that you mentioned sometimes that these "faint deep signals" will sometimes read like iron at first (which are signals that I "passed up on" the other day when I was hunting) as I just figured that they were iron. NOW I UNDERSTAND to investigate them more, dig some soil away, and recheck the target, AS IT MAY "NOT BE IRON AFTER ALL" So I might have passed up some good targets after all, thinking that it was just iron. Ugh

Thank you for this tip!
Bubba
 
I have only seen the G2 do this a couple of times(meaning ONLY low ferrous tones) and it was a non-ferrous target. The thing is it will sound very soft and faint not loud like typical iron.
 
That the GB & G2 are just like the Whites MXT as far as depth goes, they act the same on deep non ferrous until ya take the sod off. Only thing is, the GB & G2 are Deeper machines than the MXT!!!!!!!
 
Still drinking coffee and waking up. So I need to "listen carefully" for the soft faint iron sounding tones, which is a deep target? I would think that a deeper, even iron piece would be fairly broad due to the "halo effect" vs a tight small sounding grunt, which would be non iron, but deep?

Thank you all for your responses
Bubba
 
yes exactly...the audio will be "tight", but VERY faint and soft sounding. As I said only a few times has this signal only been iron grunts and been non-ferrous....most of the time a good deep target will alternate between low and high tones but the majority of the sweeps will be high tone...also sweep back and forth as you circle the target...if the majority of the sweeps are soft faint high tones with some iron grunts mixed in....dig man!
 
What did those bullets sound like today buddy?
 
I just went yesterday and found 3 total (sigh) but one thing that I will play around with more next time down there relic hunting is to try the machine more in AMM. This is how I found a ram ridden 3 ringer standing straight up 9 inches deep. I switched it to disc mode, setting 33, and only BARELY picked it up every 2 to 3 swings. Whereas in AMM it rang out very nicely and gave a speedometer reading of 70s/80s
 
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