A couple questions about V4

[Bell-Two]

New to the Deus what is the disadvantage to normalization of target ID? If I understand correctly it's purpose is to give approximately the same ID in whatever frequency you use.

Second question in the new Deep and the Hot program the default screen will be the XY can one change it to the standard screen as a default if one wishes?

 

[CT Todd]

You understand it correctly. The only downside of normalizing the TID numbers would be if you were using the numbers as an Iron check. You can build two programs exactly the same except for the frequencys then sweep the same target with each program and note the change in the TID numbers to help ID targets. With normalization turned on you would loose this little bit of info. If you were doing it.

The XY screen is the preset but you can go in and make your own choice and then save it.

Your learning quickly Tony

 

[sprchng]

I do not care for normalizing because it does not change tones , so you end up with 18khz numbers but tones for the frequency you are running in.

 

[Andy Sabisch]

The other downside with NORMALIZATION = ON is that it will compress all of the TIDs to the upper end making it harder to differentiate between good and bad targets by TID numbers.

Andy

 

[Parkologist]

I do not care for normalizing because it does not change tones , so you end up with 18khz numbers but tones for the frequency you are running in.

I don't know that this statement is correct. Tones are tied to vdi, no?

 

[Damianicus]

Right, that's the reason I've been hunting 8khz vs 12khz... 12 packs the TID numbers in too tightly so pennies, dimes and sometimes quarters ID the same. 8khz with normalization off I know better before digging.

 

[sprchng]

Right, that's the reason I've been hunting 8khz vs 12khz... 12 packs the TID numbers in too tightly so pennies, dimes and sometimes quarters ID the same. 8khz with normalization off I know better before digging.

And I prefer 12 because it expands the gold/foil/nickel low conductor range which is what I'm more interested in. I will dig most high conductors regardless if they pass the 4khz frequency shift test , zincs included until later in the day when it becomes tiresome , but they are easy to tell in both TID and tones from copper and up.

Parkologist , if you take a quarter and test it at 4 and 18 khz while normalization is on I think you will see a distinct tonal difference in full tones but the same TID number. That would tell me that tones are tied to frequency more than TID.

 

[Andy Sabisch]

Actually it compresses the entire range . . . .

4kHz:
- 5c = 37
- Zinc 1c = 61
- Silver Dime = 78
Difference between a 5c and Zinc 1c = 24
Difference between a Zinc 1c and Silver 10c = 17

8kHz:
- 5c = 46
- Zinc 1c = 74
- Silver Dime = 86
Difference between a 5c and Zinc 1c = 28
Difference between a Zinc 1c and Silver 10c = 12

12kHz:
- 5c = 54
- Zinc 1c = 81
- Silver Dime = 90
Difference between a 5c and Zinc 1c = 27
Difference between a Zinc 1c and Silver 10c = 9

That is why Normalization is not a good idea for US hunters where we need differentiation between targets

If you change frequency and the tones change it is because the breakpoints were not adjusted for frequency

Andy

 

[sprchng]

I hunt in full tones.
I like expanding the area below zincs but not the noise of 18khz hence 12 works best in my dirt.

 

[Bell-Two]

So I assume normalization can be turned off in V4 am I correct.

 

[Andy Sabisch]

Yes, same option as on V3.2 >>CONFIGURATION >> PROFILE

 

[Andy Sabisch]

Yes they are . . . . the only way they remain the same is if you have the breakpoints different for each frequency