A couple finds from today.

[B.RATNY]

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[beachguy777]

Gee whiz, those don't look like "clad" coins to me. By God, they're not, they're the real deal. Great work, again, I'm green with envy. Keep posting the terriffic pictures of our dream coins.

 

[Mirage]

Some of Saturday's digs:

Nate found some too:

Bob

 

[B.RATNY]

Hi Bob
Very nice. Your really cleaning up on that silver. Were these finds from that same silver mine? How's Nate doing with silver? or do you make him go ahead of you with the DFX to get all that pesky clad out of the way.
HH Butch NY.

 

[B.RATNY]

Thanks beachguy777. Unfortunately we will be freezing up soon, I'm trying to get out as much as possible before winter settles in. I think I need to retire early and head south for the winter. Wishful thinking.
HH Butch NY.

 

[Mirage]

Yes, It's the same spot. We are calling it the Iceberg. The guy(Danimal) who we are hunting the spot with came up with the term because at the end of a long day he found a couple coins that he predicted were only the tip of the iceberg. He has proved to be right. We keep chipping away at it.

Nate is pretty much holding his own. The third pic is his stuff. Yes, he does take care of that pesky clad stuff but also the silver. We both got 10 silver for the day. I think he might have passed me as I was beat by the end of the day but he was still was going strong.

Bob

 

[JHM]

Great coins. Coins that old are hard to come by in my area.I live in the south. I don't think we have a freeze up here. The ground will freeze but it will usually will thaw in a day or two. Sometimes the ice in the ground will shift the coins around making the ones that were missed easier to find.

 

[Golden]

you always seem to find the old coins. You've got an advantage over us here, your country's so much older, hence the better chance for much older coins. They say Captain Cook discovered Australia in the 1700's, I think, but I believe older ships visited our shorelines. There's evidence the dutch were here in the 1600's. Maybe one of then landed, and dropped a few coins! You never know!
Cheers Angela

 

[beachguy777]

Golden, just a little side question? Do you hunt in all metal mode on the relic stuff or do you use any discrimination. I'm not trying to steal your thunder or secrets here, but I'm just curious. I'm trying to go less and less disc on hunting to try and read the numbers and tones, but it sure can be a hassell and a lot more work doing that.

 

[Golden]

I hunt mostly in All Metal Mode, anywhere I go. But when I'm detecting the goldfields, and there's a lot of iron trash to read through, I will refer to a setting which I cross saved from coin/jewelry mode where I've discriminated out -10 to -8 and +40. Some of the old coins, like pennies will give a reading of 39, which is a bit unusual, because they tend to read 37 or 38, but 37 for stable readings. But I won't use discrimination in ground where I definitely know I'm going to find old chinese coins that'll give reading of either -2 or -5, or +19 to +24. The same age minted coins of the late 1600's, minted during the reign of an empereror, made of the same metal, usually bronze, sometimes copper, or a mixture, will give odd and different readings, when you might expect them to read similar, or in the positive. I truly believe that ground conditions, the consistancy of the soil, and possibly wear and tear on the coin, attributes to these readings.
I know I'm going on here, but some of you may have experienced this.
In one area, in black soil, wet and damp, the coins came out at -2 or -5 quite consistantly. But above the same site I'm detecting, where it's leveled, the ground is drier, the coins come out reading at +19 to +21. The coins are in better nick, than the coil from the damp soil below. I've found this to be the case over and over, detecting that particular site. Yet in another area, where the soil is browner, softer, like once cultivated soil, the same year minted coins found, come out reading at +29. Difference in sizes of the coins made no difference to the readings. A smaller coin would read in at the same as a larger coin, found in the same ground. And in all this, the Quattro is giving me different tones for different readings, if only slightly, from a dull, deeper signal to a higher but more even signal. Enough said!
Golden

 

[beachguy777]

Right on Golden. Maybe if you do some research on that you could find where they landed or hung out and go there. What a great place that would be to hunt. Imagine finding some of their stuff!!!:| I know it's a lot of work, this research thing, but I'm starting to believe it's the ticket to some of the good stuff. I'd like to find a place where they threw dice or something way back when. They'd probably be gambling, so they might have lost some money or whatever. I'm trying to put myself back in their shoes back then.

 

[beachguy777]

Boy you just said a lot there. That's very interesting and imformative and "food for thought". I always believed that the longer a piece stays in the ground it developes a kind of halo effect that could allow it to be read deeper, but I haven't really thought of how it could effect the conductivity or ferrous reading, but why the heck not? I mean, all the changes in moisture, minerals, and all that stuff. Boy we have our work cut out for us here, but the more we experience, the more we'll learn, I think. I need a whole lot more field experience. I know you can't replace that with anything else.

 

[beachguy777]

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[beachguy777]

I think it's important what you said about the size of the coin not seeming to make a difference, but the soil conditions do. That would seem to make sense to me, because if the Quatro is reading the "type of metal" in the coin, size shouldn't necessarily make a difference, but the soil conditions seem to affect the reading. Very interesting, and troublesome, but interesting. Sounds like we almost have to read the type of coins in any particular site, before we can get an accurate, (repeatable) reading. In other words, if a nickel reads 14 in dry soil, it might not read that same number in super damp, different kind of soil. Don't know if I'm on the same page still, here, or not, but that's what I (think) your saying. If that's the case, that's a very important aspect to consider.

 

[beachguy777]

Alright, Mirage, your the third one I've emailed on: "How do you guys get such great pictures". These are incredible shots of the "great" coins you've found. I've been into photography and now video most of my life and I"m not sure if I could shoot that good of a close up and put it on the net to share. I'm pretty envious here, so any info would be appreciated unless, as I've said before: "it's a trade secret". Maybe I'm just behind the times and need to get a really good Digital camera, that shoots extreme close up, but I still say, your lighting looks really good too. Hats off to you and the others.:|