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A Bunch of Rusty Nails

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Hi Guys!
I have had my explorer for one month. Here are my settings:
volume = 1 (I can still hear it pretty good)
gain = 7
variability = 10 max
limits = max
sounds = ferrous
response = normal
fast = off
deep = on
iron mask -16
I hunt in clean areas only. I cannot handle trashy areas yet. In the clean areas, a tone that sounds like silver to me always seems to be a rusty nail. Many times the falsie registers like silver on the smartfind screen. I always try to test the signal for repeatability at zero degrees and 90 degrees. If it repeats at these two angles, then I go after it. I always find a nail, or some other rusty object, about 3 inches from the side of my hole. These things fool me 99% of the time. The exception was that one time this same signal type turned out to be a 1919 standing liberty quarter at a depth of 7 inches (I measured its depth with a ruler).
My question is: How should I try to avoid some of these trick nail signals?
Thanks guys!
Mike Unruh, Wichita, KS
 
turn you IM up to maybe -10 then go again.... I would say with a month that I did play safe and kept it low for the month maybe a little less and banged great finds... go -10 maybe -8 and that will kill many of the nails but volume of 1 you say...... can you hear a warble sound on the nails you dug? Iron for me is very distinct sounding even when really wet.....just sounds terrible to me....very washed out and unsteady I guess. You should be able too but also do a circle right around it best you can you should be able to here the void on one of the sweeps and when you get a good tone on both sweeps narrow it down(the sweep) to a small narrow ~wiggle~ that will help ya for sure and keep trying the wiggle on those hits till you really grip(or loose) those nails <IMG SRC="/forums/images/wink.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=";)">.....HH Bri
 
Interesting settings
You still have enough volume even at one? hmmm...anyway, Why do you hunt in ferrous mode in clean areas, or any areas for that matter? I have used have used ferrous mode for months at a time and feel there is no great benefit in doing so. I use conductive, iron mask -8 and have no problem hearing very small pieces of pewter or 22 pellets,if you go nice and slow like the ex should be swung. One of the main things I didn't like about running ferrous mode was in heavy iron some good targets blend signals and were tougher to pick out. Easier in conductive and hearing a spec of a sound through the null. I suspect you are digging the nails becouse of your iron mask being to low and the detector hitting a little too good on them. Whats your sens. at?
 
Hi C.C.,
My sensitivity was 25. Yea, higher volume hurts my ears. I was using ferrous to cut down on all the high tones.
Do you like to have a signal be very repeatable in different directions?
Thanks,
Mike
 
Mike, The high tones hurt my ears, I have lost alot of mid tone though.
I have to run variablity at 9 to nock down the highs and also run no more than -15 on the iron mask.
The rusty nails will get me now and then but most times I know it is a nail befor I dig, rusty items will move on me (when you sweep and find center) not in pinpoint (go 180 instead of 90 and see where center is again) if it moved more than an inch or so odds are it is iron, if not sure try again from 90 (when you get a target back off and do short sweeps moving forward slow when it sounds off it is right at the minelab logo) not sure if you were doing this or not I used a colored golf tee to mark the spot at first just till I got used to how the XS reacted.
hope some of this helps
Charlie
 
" I always find a nail, or some other rusty object, about 3 inches from the side of my hole"
I think if you find something with high tones why not put it in pinpoint and find the center then switch back to discrim. and sweep over that center not where you had the first good sound was. I found with other multi-freq. machines that the edge or halo of iron would give you high hopes. By sweeping slowly over where pinpoint said it was you will probally get more null but you need some threshold to begin with. later Ev
 
my (admittedly limited) experience has been that small rusty iron will give a high-pitched shriek that is about two notes higher in pitch than the 'sweet' sound of silver or copper. in fact, the old song "ain't she sweet" constantly plays through my mind when i'm hunting iron infested sites. i ignore the "ain't" and the "she" but if i hear the "sweet" i ALWAYS dig it. anybody else weird enough to identify with what i'm saying? <IMG SRC="/forums/images/biggrin.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":D"> lol... hh to all
neal, UT
 
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